Dr. Boyce: Herman Cain, the Brainwashed Caricature of a Candidate

Conleec, Michael Steele, remember him? He once told a group of booing students on T.V that Sarah Palin would soon become their Vice President and that they should get used to it. He made that declaration with such audacity, but the question is, where is Michael Steele and Sarah Palin today? I asked what great innovation Mr. Cain has created that can be described as all black global or even National (within the U.S only) enterprise, and you mention some books he recently authored. How pitiful. Where’s the innovation in that? Even serial killers publish books. Is there anyone left in America that has not written a book? That’s hardly an achievement bro. As a matter of fact, writing books is now the latest craze in America. You talk about blacks making up just 14% of the population and then use that as an excuse for Mr. Cain’s lack of personal ownership of a business empire created from scratch. Shameful!!! I thought conservatives made no excuses, but only deliver results. I ask you again, if Mr. Can is a ‘self made’ businessman, where is his industry(s) and where are his products invented and patented by him and distributed around the world?

According to Forbes, Mr. Cain’s net worth is $18 million. Not bad, but paltry in comparison to many other successful black men, and women. If Mr. Cain’s so called “self made” business identity which is based on his employment over the years in white owned franchises is what qualifies him for President, then Russell Simmons who actually is a co-founder of Def Jam, and creator of Phat Farm with an estimated net worth of $340 million is by far more qualified than Mr. Cain. Compared to Mr. Simmons, Herman Cain would be a business/economic dwarf. That’s just one amongst many black men, who built a business from scratch, and does not have to fall in line when the slave master demands it.

As far as Mr. Cain or any other black conservative becoming President, well, my own advice to you is to seek counseling because it you are disconnected from reality.

Obama is way more qualified than Cain.  Of couse you would think the opposite because teabaggers stick together no matter how much facts is thrown at them.  I wont discount Cains success because I an sure he worked hard to get where he is today but so did Obama.  Both men as done well, however, Cains policies is not one that I would want in the White House…all for the rich and to hell with the poor!

Cbvisouly if anyone has to explain to you why the sitting president of the USA is more qualified to be POTUS than “anyone” who has never held the office for even one second, you, Merwordup, would not understand the  explaination.

Chris Conlee, please take your time and read carefully before responding. No one has discounted Mr. Cain’s achievements. If you had paid attention to what I wrote, you would have realized that I commended Mr. Cain for his accomplishments. I even said, it is always good to see and read about successful black people like Mr. Cain. So no, I am not jealous of his success. I celebrate his and the success of many other black men and women because theirs are positive stories in our community.

However, it seems you have just now woken up to the fact that it takes a lot more than $$$ to make a good President. If that is the case, why were you repeatedly tauting Mr. Cain’s business success as his qualifying asset? Until just recently, the deceptive neocons never regarded business ownership, or a background in Corpoprate America as a major credential required to run for office of President. They never did, and that false argument never came up. However, the minute black President Obama won the election, meaning he would have to stand for re-election after four years, owning a business, running a corporation, or being a governor or former governor suddenly became an overnight must have on a candidate’s resume. In previous years none of that mattered, but somehow, when a blackman achieves what he was never intended to achieve, the rules must be changed to disfavor him. 

But to properly respond to your question about what in President Obama’s background makes him more preferable to me than Mr. Cain, I think Vernnmm already answered a part of that question. I would not use your word “BETTER” than. I respect both men, and would not pit one against the other because such comparison’s do not serve black people’s interest in anyway. White people and ignorant black conservatives love to see black people divided, suspicious of one another, and or warring with one another. 

When President Obama was 24 years old fresh out of law school, his options were many and his future bright. He could have been a wall street lawyer making millions and rising through the ranks. However, he was chose to work in community Organizing. As a student of history, the President had been inspired by the civil rights movement, and by the many black men/women who made sacrifices, many paying with their lives so that the next generation would have rights and dignity as human beings. President Obama may have arrived on that scene ten years late, but black America was a still in reeling from the after effects of that civil rights, and pre civil rights era.

When President Obama community organizing career centered around the far South Side of Chicago where some of the Steel factories that employed many blacks had closed shop and moved away forever leading to the loss of jobs for hundreds of black families (sounds familiar?) Those black folks faced the possibility of losing their accomodation in the apartment complexes they lived, and everything else they ever worked. The community based help group in that community was tasked with the responsibility of helping bring jobs back to the community through job re-training skills, education, tranferable skills, etc. However, they could not make any head way into the predominantly black community because black folks at that point had deep suspicions of whites. President Obama saw this challenge and applied for a job believing he may be able to reach black folks, talk to them, and understand what their challenges were. He was 24, and the memoirs/accounts detail how successful he was in reaching out to black folks. He found out that many layed off black folks had mundane skills number doing tasks as simple as pushing a button or pulling a lever, and making big bucks. After those assessment, the Mr. Obama and his team realized why those jobs were never coming back. Keep in mind this community based project was funded by White Catholic Church, and all their community organizers were white  priests whose offices were located exclusively in black communities, but made no headway in understanding the challenges facing the black community until Mr. Obama came along and changed that.

More importantly, Mr. Obama went outside that predominant white Catholic community organizing group and recruited non Catholic/non white Churches to join in the community help initiative. It was his belief that if black people suffered most from the dwindling fortunes of Chicago’s economic outlook, then they should be involved and in the center of community based initiatives to help pull themselves out of the economic decline. It during his effort recruit a coalition of black pastors and churches to become involved that he met the much maligned but irrrespressible Rev. Jeremiah Wright, and then joined the Trinity United Methodist Church of Christ. Part of what he accomplished was setting up a youth summer jobs program, and after school programs for black youths in the community. Another thing was that some of the apartment complexes black people lived in had asbestos in them. Those were not safe buildings for anybody. Mr. Obama’s led community group made it possible for the buildings to be rid of asbestos by by city safety building technicians.

The point to be made is, President Obama began as a grassroots persons who worked with the poor masses of our people, and represented them in their critical time of need, and brought other already organized black organizations like churches into the forefront of black issues. I respect that. I respect a man who remembers his roots and can be identify with the real struggles and challenges of people like him. I also respect a man who when he makes it, does not turn around and forget his humble background, who chooses instead to spit on where he came from and on those who sacrificed in order for him to have a fair chance at the success he thinks he achieved on his own.

What I have stated above are the core things why I feel Mr. Obama is more appealing to me than Mr. Cain. As far as qualifications go, they are both qualified. Mr. Obama has a better grip on the realities of how government works though. Mr. Obama also much more experienced and skilled in matters of foreign policy. But the issues that come close to home for me, is to lookin at both men in terms of their impact on their black community early on in their public life. Who gave more of himself to that community? You be the judge of that.  

No one stated that Cain’s success should be discounted.  Please read and comprehend before you give your comments.  Obama did work is way up like Cain did, he also wrote books as well.  Stop be delusional because Cain will not get to the White House as the president and you know it!!!  So to say that Liberals can’t stand the thought of a Black conservative president is not only idiotic but is also laughable.  Cain will not make it!!!

Is that why Olin stated quite loudly that the conservatives would never elect a “coon?” Come on, man. There’s only one group here throwing racial epithets around, and it isn’t the conservatives. Mr. Cain is heading for the White House, and I couldn’t be prouder to one of his supporters.

Tartbond, you are right. He is a troll indeed. This is the type of confused black person that must always serve the white man. In his twisted man, he would prefer to vote for a white man over a black person because according to him, Mr. Bloomberg has record that makes him ‘such a guy’, yet he could not list one thing on that record that make Michael Bloomberg ‘such a guy’. However, in that same New York City, both under Julliani and now Bloomberg, scores of unarmed black men have been murdered by the police, and each time they go before a police review board, they are found to have acted appropriately and allowed to continue serving in the police force, free to victimize, assault, or frame another black man.

Your the real joke you racist troll!

troll extra special troll!

Define a Maxist..for help, use any internet search engine, then do some reading. After you figure out what maxism is, explain with clear and concise examples, what makes President Obama a maxist. Please use correct and coherent sentences. Furthermore, list all referenced materials.

Can you manage that? Thanks

Ya, nice try anyway.  My family lost a dozen men fighting for the north in that war, and another four men in our family were hanged for helping runaway slaves escape to freedom. 
Speaking of humps, are you sure your name isn’t “Agitated _XXX.”  You naughty thing you.  : )

First off, if you don’t think that Obama doesn’t lean in this direction, then explain all his references to spreading the wealth around, and he has said he believes in the redistribution of wealth (exactly what Marx taught),  You think his associations with radicals like the Righteous Rev, Wright (admitted Liberation Theology advocate, which is Marxist through and through), Bill Ayers, himself an admitted Marxist and criminal bomber with the weather underground.  Let’s not forget his love for the author of “Rules For Radicals,”  Saul Alinski, a book that teaches his gaggle of  minions to shout down and covertly disrupt any opponent.  Mr. Obama even taught this garbage to the members of Acorn.  What about his appointment as Green Jobs Czar for his Administration, Van Jones, self-admitted member of the Communist Party of America?  Obama has surrounded himself with Socialists, and Marxists.  Here is a quote from his laughable book, ‘Dreams From My Father.”

“To avoid being mistaken for a sellout,I chose my friends carefully.The
more politically active black students.The foreign students.The
Chicanos.The Marxist Professors and the structural feminists and punk-rock performance poets.We
smoked cigarettes and wore leather jackets.At night,in the dorms,we
discussed neocolonialism,Franz Fanon,Eurocentrism,and patriarchy.When
we ground out our cigarettes in the hallway carpet or set our stereos
so loud that the walls began to shake,we were resisting bourgeois society’s stifling constraints.We weren’t indifferent or careless or insecure.We were alienated.” (pages 100-101)Notice his friends included Marxist professors, and he references BOURGEOIS society.  Bourgeois was a term Marx used all the time, read the Communist Manifesto.For the record, it’s not my job to do your homework, and I won’t fall to your intellectual con job asking me to provide you information and proof.  I understand Marxism, and don’t care whether you believe it or not.  BTW, you can’t throw a clean rag into a mud puddle, and expect the mud puddle to become clean.  Yes, you can use that analogy for Obama.

Myopic, intellectually bankrupt Broll.  LOL!  Hey, is being a mental midget something you acquired at birth or did you make choices to become one?

 Ah yes, another vile, black racist rant!  I love it!   You know nothing about me, and do not even possess the necessary intellectual ability to understand.  The honourable Jeremiah Wright is a poster child for the Summer’s Eve Product line, douche bag through and through!  LOL!  In fact, he is a vile piece of human waste, IMO.  He, BTW, is NOT a biblical scholar.  Just because he studied theology, does not make him a biblical scholar.  Biblical studies is a completely different discipline than theology.  He does not have biblical studies credentials, unless he’s degreed in ancient near eastern studies, ancient Hebrew (why would he since he hates the Jews, just like a good Christian minister would), Aramaic, Greek, and ancient textual criticism.  At best he’s a theologian, but given his gross lack of theological understanding (based on his racist rant sermons) that is a stretch. 

So there Mr. porno flick XXX, shut your uniformed vile sewer hole you call a mouth.

The X in my tag pays homage to my Black Nationlist icon Malcolm X.

Based on your writing, I don’t want to know about your sorry ass.

Robert E Lee publishes a bunch of lies about President Obama’s political position – all ending with assorted ISM’s based on propaganda IT heard on FalseNews and a cartel of rightwing political shills on radio, TV, and print media. And IT has the nerve to call my truthful statements about the history of Africans in America – vile.?!! And the rascal has the gall to tell me his confederate family helped run away Slaves in the Civil War era. Which begs the question: If this SOB feels this hateful toward President Obama and Rev Jeremiah Wright in 2011; his family supported the KKK from its conception! BTW: I feel confident that Rev Wright at age 70, would mop the floor with this piece of scum that calls itself Robert [Dave] Lee. Your mammy should have done a better job of teaching you manners, Son. 

Give it a break, friend. You dont’t know what your’re talking about. The extreme right is the group that is SUPPORTING Mr. Cain. It is the establishment republicans who are not, because THEY are afraid he’s not electable. We know he IS, because it’s the issues that count, not what the media tells us to believe. And Mr. Cain is 100% correct on the ISSUES. You go ahead and continue spouting racist bullshit all you want, if it makes you feel better about yourself. I will continue to support the single best candidate in this race, and that is Mr. Herman Cain.

Is that the best you’ve got? You got me.

Cain will not be nominated because your racist Repub extremist party would never vote for him.  President Obama will win even though the obstructionists are doing every thing possible to defeat him.  They would rather keep millions of people out of work rather than support President Obama’s policies.  Re-elect president Obama 2012! 

Troll! You called yourself an ass not me. Repubs are racists!  Their policies alienate blacks and other minorities.  Why is their such a dearth of blacks in your biggoted party.  You are living in a white only fantasy land.  I have fought white racists and biggots all of my life.  Why do you think it was such a historic moment in this country when President Obama was elected? What has President Obama done so bad to unleash the racists. He just saved the econmy from a disaster brought about by the Repubs. Tried to reform the Repubs best friend Wall Street, provided health care to millions, approved DADT, put the first latina woman on the Supreme court, not a bad record to me troll. I through wasting my intellect on you troll.  Go back under the bridge with the rest of your white trash biggoted, extreme right, Tea party brethren.  Re-elect President Obama 2012!   Wake up troll

Troll you lost me with your discussion of President Obama and Marxism.  Your a joke Hank Williams Jr.  Troll! Troll! Troll! 

I’m sorry, I should have known you probably are clueless about Marxism.  Well, just do a little homework, and you’ll understand it

Herman Cain’s shuckin’ and jivin’ style of humor bothers me as a partially African-descendant American, especially considering who comprises his base. He is, however, an extremely accomplished Christian minister, business owner/executive, Morehouse man (B.S.), Purdue graduate (M.S.), mathemetician, and Navy ballistics expert. This man is brilliant. He has nothing to prove to anyone. He has taken over at least 2 failing corporations and made them profitable. He has been chairman of a branch of the U.S. Treasury. (This is NOT affirmative action, folks)! The man is a genius. He personifies the American dream.

His rise to the top is further punctuated by the fact that he was raised in the segregated, Jim Crow south. His mother worked as a maid. His father worked 3 jobs until he could afford to work 2 jobs and 2 jobs until he could afford to work 1. Herman was taught that if you want something, then work for it. No excuses. Mr. Cain is also a family man with children, commited to the same woman for many years. I can overlook my disdain for his brand of humor. I like that he speaks his mind, is not a politician, (yet) and is wise enough to know that conservative policies support prosperity and freedom. Most importantly, Herman and Mitt are the most logical options for the presidency in our current economic times, because of their business acumen. Mitt has been vetted and has more negatives in my opinion. We shall see if Herman can go the distance once he is fully vetted and better explains his policies.

Screw Wittgenstein – That’s the main problem with race in this country “White folks tolerate their own racist, biggoted behavior”.  If they would step up and challenge the racists, life in America would be much better.  But whites will no do it because racism benefits them.

meant to say that full-of-con said “gutter” religion

Interesting how you avoid the evidence for black racism.  I guess it all boils down to whose ox is being gored.  Here is my original post based on the original article about Cain being brain dead.  You can find documantation for ALL of it, BTW.

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Interesting commentary I must say. It
seems to me that your assertion that Cain is brainwashed and “brain
dead” is itself racist insofar as it asserts that an African
American man (Cain) is not too smart. Hmmm, are you saying a “black”
man is not too smart, and in fact Brain dead? and what about all
those victims of brain injuries now on life support? WOW! How
insensitive can one man be to use such a term.

Democrats have legacies such as the
late senator Robert Carlyle Byrd who was himself a Klansman. Oh yes,
he was also a devout Democrat as well, but I’m sure he was really a
closet republican……………..right? He fought against the 1964
Civil Rights act, and supposedly denounced the Klan, yet he still got
a wink and a pass, along with deafening silence from civil rights
groups. Had he been a Republican, he’d have been tarred and
feathered. In his own words……..

“I shall never fight in the armed
forces with a Negro by my side … Rather I should die a thousand
times, and see Old Glory trampled in the dirt never to rise again,
than to see this beloved land of ours become degraded by race
mongrels, a throwback to the blackest specimen from the wilds. ”

— Robert C. Byrd, in a letter to Sen.
Theodore Bilbo (D-MS), 1944,

Oh, and lest we forget his immortal
words, that got him little more than slap on the wrist…………

“They’re much, much better than
they’ve ever been in my lifetime … I think we talk about race too
much. I think those problems are largely behind us … I just think
we talk so much about it that we help to create somewhat of an
illusion. I think we try to have good will. My old mom told me,
‘Robert, you can’t go to heaven if you hate anybody.’ We practice
that. There are white niggers. I’ve seen a lot of white niggers in my
time, if you want to use that word. We just need to work together to
make our country a better country, and I’d just as soon quit talking
about it so much.”

Though this is not in perfect
chronological order, what about that great non-racist Democrat,
Franklin D. Roosevelt? Seems to me he signed presidential Executive
Orders 9066 and 9102 during WW II which placed over 120,000 Japanese
Americans in concentration camps for the duration of the war. Naaaa,
that wasn’t racist, he was just looking out for the common good. He
even hinted that Italian, and German Americans might share the same
fate, yet at that time (1943) he said there were no immediate plans.
I just love what he said about Italians, however,

“I don’t care so much about the
Italians, they are a lot of opera singers, but the Germans are
different. They may be dangerous.” (Tintori, Guido, “New
Discoveries, Old Prejudices: The Internment of Italian Americans
during World War II”, published in Lawrence Di Stasi, ed, in Una
Storia Segreta: The Secret History of Italian American Evacuation and
Internment during World War II, Heyday Books, Berkley, 2001, pp.
236-254.)

I’d also like to know what you think
about FDR’s court appointments of two infamous segregationists, Jimmy
Byrnes (South Carolina), and Senator Hugo Black (Alabama). Black was
a member of the Alabama Ku Klux Klan. FDR eventually made Byrnes a
top advise who earned the nick name, “assistant President.”

Then there is the racist Democrat
Senator Ernest Hollings, who fought brutally against lunch counter
integration in the 1960s. In 1960, Republican President, Dwight D.
Eisenhower demanded that Blacks have full rights to protest against
the inhumane, unfair treatment they were receiving at the hands of
southern white racists. Hollings retorted that Eisenhower had
caused “great damage to peace and good order” in his
support for blacks to protest at lunch counters. If you do your
homework on this guy, you’ll see he has a very colorful history of
racist positions and comments. A dedicated Democrat nonetheless.

How can we forget that great Democrat,
anti-racist Jesse Jackson and his anti-Semitic comments about Jews in
“Hymietown.”

And moving right along we encounter
Missouri Democratic Representative Dick Gephardt, and his 1999
endorsement from a white supremacist group.

Former Clinton Drug Czar, and mayor of
Houston, TX got into a little game of race baiting against an
Hispanic mayoral opponent.

Former Democrat State Representative
Billy McKinney of Georgia publicly blamed the Jews for his daughter’s
failed attempt at re-election in 2002.

Shall I continue, or sign off by
saying, which party has a history of racism

Oh, almost forgot to mention Al Gore’s
democratic Senator daddy, Al Gore Sr. who voted more than once
against the 1964 Civil Rights Act.

LOLOLOLOLOL!!!!!!!!!!  You’re proving how ignorant you actually are.  You don’t know anything about Marx, do need to look at his thought, yet you know, with certainty, that Obama is not a Marxist. Hahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  That is funny, and you are a black troll!!

I believe you’re a republican. I also agree that Mr. Cain would be able to tackle race-based issues in a way that white candidates could not. Who cares? The only way we truly get to the panacea of post-racial America is to start talking about this stuff and quit being so damn uptight about it. Personally, I have a hard time taking anybody seriously when they say Mr. Cain doesn’t have he qualifications to be president. He’s literally a “rocket scientist,” having worked as a ballistics specialist for the Department of the Navy. He’s run several corporations, turning Godfathers around from bankruptcy and purchasing it, by the way. He’s quite probably the most qualified candidate from either party in the past 50 years or more. He excites me, and I’ll be honored to vote for him. Go Herman!