Are Black Women “Single and Bitter?”: Let the Battle of the Sexes Continue

are black women bitter? by Dr. Boyce Watkins, Your Black World

Essence Magazine’s Demetria Lucas (whom I consider to be a friend after having her on my show once) recently hit on her oft-discussed topic of black women and relationships by questioning whether or not the stereotype of the single, bitter black woman is true.  Her words were a reflection of comments made by Ralph Richard Banks, a Stanford University Professor.  In a recent article for the NY Daily News, Banks said that ”Stereotypes of Black women as angry or bitter are pervasive. They are also more accurate than many people would like to acknowledge.”

Of course Lucas takes issue with Banks words, even though she seemed to like him the week before.  Lucas had applauded Banks’ book, “Is Marriage for White People?,” stating that Professor Banks  ”revealed he’d had an internal struggle as a Black man writing about how so many Black men aren’t measuring up and are too often doing Black women dirty.”

But Lucas’ newfound love for Dr. Banks died once he stopped asking black men to do introspection and turned the mirror onto black women themselves.  That’s when Dr. Banks became just another author who was “under pressure to earn their royalties and that will make you do and say outrageous things to get attention.”  How quickly admiration can turn into disdain when someone stops saying what we would like to hear.

Though you can’t categorize an entire group of people, the truth is that the bitter black woman does indeed exist.  I once heard a therapist say, “My father was my first boyfriend, and when he broke my heart by abandoning me, I had a hard time trusting men ever again.”  In light of how many little girls are growing up without their daddies around, it’s inevitable that there are going to be millions of black women in dire need of a psychiatrist’s chair.  If my mother had abandoned me as a baby, it might be tough for any woman to gain the trust that my own mother (the ultimate woman, in my mind) had thrown into the garbage.

Whether their fathers were deliberately excluded from their lives or not (I’ve heard from a lot of men who were pushed out of their kids’ lives), the impact is the same nonetheless.   Additionally, there is a culture of hyper-masculinity among segments of the black male population, partially fueled by hip-hop music, that can lead us to treat women in ways that are everything but honorable (I still wonder why so many women are attracted to Lil Wayne, who rarely uses any favorable adjective to describe a woman).  So, in many cases, the bitter black woman can be the product of an insensitive black man, but the insensitive black man is often a product of dealing with bitter black women.  So, at the end of the day, they actually deserve one another – they exchange glances at the club, get sexually aroused, create a baby, get into a fight a few months later, and start a new relationship a few months after that.  The dating-mating pattern is as predictable as anything you might see on the Discovery Channel.

We are all clear in understanding that there is something unique happening in the world of black love and relationships.  Couples are either not getting married at all, or staying married for 10 minutes, creating a chaotic cesspool of drama, dysfunction and severe baby-mama-itis.  What’s interesting to me is that nearly all of us play a role in the reasons that this chaos has come into existence, yet no one is willing to take responsibility.  The unhealthy state of black relationships has even added to the spread of venereal disease, since a single person likely has far more sex partners during a year than someone who is married.

Every love-seeker in the dating pool claiming that they can’t find the love of their life wants to believe that it’s always the other gender’s fault.  Some folks seem to enjoy sitting around and complaining about relationship drama, while spending almost no time wondering why they are always aiming their pole toward the contaminated fish.  Our friends tell us that there’s nothing wrong with us and that the rest of the world has become the problem.  But sorry, that’s just not good advice – a true friend can recognize your dating patterns and will tell you when you’re being stupid.

The truth?  If you’re not getting what you want out of life, there’s a good chance that you’re doing something wrong.  It’s not that the world has suddenly become horrible, that everyone is conspiring against your quest for perpetual happiness, or that you’ve somehow been the victim of a cultural tornado that is sweeping away all of your opportunities.  While the world can be a strange place sometimes, the reality is that most of us fail because we are not willing to make adjustments.

In all relationships, there are at least two minds, two lives, and two spirits trying to merge into one.  When that merger doesn’t happen in the right way, it can be heart breaking and debilitating.   Watching a chance at true love slip away is hurtful beyond words, and it also fills our hearts with regret, bitterness and rejection.  When a woman once ended my relationship for no good reason (other than being interested in another man), I temporarily felt that I’d been born on the wrong planet.  After all, I’d done everything right, so I couldn’t understand why this was happening to “poor little old me.”

But when you’re sitting alone and dealing with the person named Y-O-U, you ultimately have a choice.  You can either give up or you can keep trying.  You can remain stagnant or continue to grow.  You can moan, whine and wail over internal damage and give yourself an excuse to become a wretched human being, or you can elevate your spirit to find productive ways to seek out the love that God has intended for you.  There are millions of people around the world who have found the very thing you’ve deemed to be unobtainable, and in all likelihood it’s because they made a sacrifice that you were not wiling to make.

As most married folks will tell you, true love is not a blissful and marvelous fairy tale – it is a series of stressful, challenging sacrifices being made one after the other, all for the sake of maintaining the thing that you’ve chosen to build together.  This goes triple when you have kids.  The realistic description of the “marital fairy tale” doesn’t go over so well in the generation of “ME.”  Relationships have become like pieces of bubble gum that are spit out and replaced as soon as the sugar runs out.

No matter what choice you make (I personally believe that it’s OK to walk away from marriage), you have to keep in mind that the choice is always yours.  Your decisions are the only factor that you can control in this confusing process called “life.”  Blaming the rest of the world, presuming that an entire gender has conspired against you or burying yourself in a shell of scorn is not going to help you find true love.   In fact, you’re likely to attract the thing that you have chosen to become.

Dr. Boyce Watkins is a Professor at Syracuse University and author of the book, Financial Lovemaking 101: Merging Assets with Your Partner in Ways that Feel Good. To have Dr. Boyce commentary delivered to your email, please click here.

 

 

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  • makinithappen

    We really really need to slow down almost to snail speed and really get to know the person that you marry and bare children with. Work hard to get under the surface of a person’s mind to see if it is motives that bring you together or if there is true true love forming. If so work hard to keep it growing and the results will be great for generations to come.

  • Beverly

    Being bitter does not just mean the black woman, I have been around different race of woman and there is no difference, for some reason people like to tell me things, I don’t know if it that they think I will not speak about it to anyone or they just had too tell someone. I have had white women tell me, they put their husband through College and once he got his degree, he wanted out of the marriage because there was someone else he was interested in. And believe me these women were very bitter, one said, I will never work and take care of another man, being bitter comes from who we choose as a partner, I was married, my ex-husband and I did not get along, I walk away and never looked back, he moved in with another woman, I told him I wanted a divorce and he said no, I talked to an attorney he took my case I filed for my divorced, after I did so, that man never married the woman he had moved in with, plus she had 2 kids for him and yet he left her and married some other woman.

    It’s really hard getting to know someone, sometime people only let you see what they think you will like about them, which is defined as deception. To this day I am single by choice, to find a man and truly give my all is saying a lot, something I will never be able to do, because trust is the key to building a relationship, if the man is not real, it will eventually come to the light.

    I take things as they come, never get too serious about anything, there are so many things to do, why dwell on something, when there’s no way to control it, look at it as life experience and move on, to hold a grudge is only pulling the individual down, life it to short for heartache.  

  • AB

    The issue I have is that what Prof Banks says just adds fuel to the fire. Are there bitter black women out there…yes. But he seems paint black women with such a broad brush. I am a 45 yr old, black woman who is not bitter, although circumstance indicate I should be. I grew up without a father, I am currently raising a child out of wedlock and I am single. I find myself explaining to men who automatically assume that I must be bitter. I am very happy with my life.

  • Andrea

    Yes this article is very stereotypical! I am a black woman and I am not bitter! I also know plenty of beautiful black women who are not bitter as well!  I have been happily married to  a beautiful black man for 18 years now!  We love and respect each other.  We fought through and stay committed to our marriage! We are partners and we support each other in everything! We are great parents to a beautiful and intelligent 12 year old!  I feel very blessed that we have the sense to be guided by God and not by society.  We allow our marriage to be guided by II Cor. 13.  “Love is patient and love is kind….

    • bhillboy37

      Uhhhhh. Yeah Andrea…you aren’t bitter. You’re happily married. The writer is talking about women who are unhappy and/or unmarried and unhappy with being single. That’s not you. That doesn’t mean it isn’t the lady across the street. I don’t know any one armed man but that doesn’t men a one armed man does not exist. 

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_YJW2HKBIBSRGOLC6Y5AVYT526Y Just-Thinking

      I love and respect that!

  • selfmotivationiskey

    I would like to see our black journalists write about some solutions to the relationship crisis or some self-help tactics based on their own gender because this cycle of rehashing the same old tired story and retelling it again and again is ridiculous.

    So here is my proposal for Dr. Boyce and all of the rest of our black male and female journalist, please use your talent and inteligence to create an article for members of your own sex (i.e. a male writes a self-help article for men and a woman writes a self-help article for women) that shares with us ways to improve ourselves in order to attract and assess the mates we desire.

    Does anyone else notice the irony… all of our articles about family keep saying that single mothers cannot teach young boys to be men and single fathers cannot teach young girls to be women yet all of these articles about what’s wrong with our relationships entail grown men and women telling “each other” what’s wrong with the opposite sex…

    • Thefinaldance

      In the bible says ” A man who finds a wife finds a good thing and obtain favor from the Lord” therefore in Christ us as women we dont need to look for a man thats not in our nature yes we will desire to be married but we have to continue to let God work on us so we can be in the position to be found by that one man that God has ordain for you,and no he will not come perfect but together you two can strive for perfection in GOD, if its in His will you to be married.

  • Regg’e

    If I were an African American woman, having to deal with the pitiful plight of the A.A. male (not Man), I’d be bitter as all get out, myself. It’s downright deplorable. Deadbeats who don’t support their own children in any sense of the word, not to mention multiple children from multiple women. The only solution . . .castration and immediate deportation to Iraq and Afghanistan (send those in the penal system over there with them).

  • Ebonyeyes600

    That’s typical for many of these men to say when black women refuse to be belittled, and take the crap that white, asian and hispanic women take, neither do we kill like they do either. Many black men are hung up on light or white skin and long straight hair and will kiss butt to stay with them. I know some black women are left alone and struggle to give their children the best and take a firm stance to not deal with BS from them. The men also turn their nose up at good women who don’t have a degree but they don’t have one either. Grow up and stop being prejudiced against black women.

  • Ebonyeyes600

    ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS TURN ON THE TV TO SEE THAT THIS IS A LIE!!! THE WHITE WOMAN, ASIAN, HISPANIC WOMEN ARE ALL OVER THE TV DOING AND SAYING ANYTHING.

  • JanetL

    Black Media and Blogging Sites really need to STOP STOP STOP with this nonsense. If you don’t respect Black Women how do you expect America to Respect them.

    This article title and it’s contents is just Shameful!

    • Odile

      JanetL, they work diligently soliciting help from non-Blacks to disrespect us and set up road blocks when we keep chugging along in spite of no assistance from them.  Black women have become easy targets especially with Black men leading the way and holding the flashlight for others to follow them.  In the end, they appear extremely weak since it’s unheard of for men to seek out others to attack women from their own communities.  The good news is what doesn’t kill us…makes us stronger.  We you understand that no one is standing behind you what else can you do.  We’ll soon have ‘separate’ civil rights and lobbying groups to deal with this heinous issues…watch!

      • Chyeah

        You’re tellin’ it like it is, Odile…

        I’d hate to see the day when separate civil rights for black men and women come into fruition, but it looks inevitable at this point…

        • Vandellish

          Odile you may be telling the truth but you are still making sweeping statements about black men. I think your statement would be stronger if you tempered them by saying ‘many men’ or even ‘most men’. To simply put black men insinuates that all of us are doing the same thing which just isn’t true. There are plenty of great brothers out here who love our women believe it or not.

          • Chyeah

            …no there is not, Vandellish…

            …a lot of black males are disrespectful and hate black women, but they love having the options available to them, while black women are supposed to just grin and bear it… so why should black women continue to have this diehard loyalty when it’s not reciprocated?…

          • Vandellish

            Nobody ever said you should have a die hard loyalty to anything…that’s all in YOUR head.
            All I said was that there are plenty of black men out here who love and respect you. Still, you denied that and went right back to ‘a lot of black males are disrespectful, blah blah blah’.
            So all that tells me is that you tend to focus on the negative and probably make sweeping generalizations of black men every day.
            Good luck to you anyway.

          • Vandellish

            Nobody ever said you should have a die hard loyalty to anything…that’s all in YOUR head.
            All I said was that there are plenty of black men out here who love and respect you. Still, you denied that and went right back to ‘a lot of black males are disrespectful, blah blah blah’.
            So all that tells me is that you tend to focus on the negative and probably make sweeping generalizations of black men every day.
            Good luck to you anyway.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_YJW2HKBIBSRGOLC6Y5AVYT526Y Just-Thinking

      this is what we black men have to realize if you don’t see it this era is the attack of the black woman! And black women fell to see it. Look at what is happing to our culture today. Look at what is on t.v. and radio. Look at Niki Manij whatever her name is, I see she ates her self. What she don’t like her beautiful curly hair? I See she wear different color wigs and stuff, look at Rianna and so forth. The only black woman I love and like is women who set an example like Jennifer Hudson, Jill Scoot, Dr. Frances Cress-Welsing and many more. Those are the type of black women i like. Sistas of today wake up and look at what is happing to you. Start boycotting the fads of the industry that sell you dogma!

    • Ggyhyg

      i totally agree with you JanetL. But you can’t beg people to respect you who don’t respect you. unfortunately there are too many black men that have gone the way of the kkk when it comes to black women. they will never stop, so move away from them.

      • JanetL

        Black women never go toward those type of men.  Black women are not begging just relating that our own Blogs such as this should not indulge, get it Dr. Boyce?

        It seems impossible for some in the community to understand that even addressing this lie opens the door to disrespect Black Women.

        Why is that so hard for Black Publishing, Editors, Blogs, Magazines to understand?

  • Odile

    Black women…isn’t it interesting how they continually reach for this same ol’ tired bag of tricks when there’s little else to report?  The bottomline is many Black women could care less and it’s frightening to many Black men observing the growing ‘indifference’ from a vast pool of women who seek to move on in peace and ‘quiet’.  They prefer believing we should remain in a heightened state of desperation and bitterness over them but ‘indifference’ takes it to a whole different level IMO. 

    • Chyeah

      That’s it in a nutshell, Odile.

      They’re grasping at straws to keep black women under their thumb, but the indifference is increasing….

      • Education

        I couldn’t have said it better. Also, that old tired and played out sterotype needs to be retired. The press keeps trying to bring it up and make it stick. The hoochie mama stereotype is no longer working. Be informed. African American women are not sitting around feeling sorry for themselves, or being lonely. Like others in this country we date, are marrying and move on. There are many options of men to choose from and they are choosing us for marriage, etc. even if some brothers have decided not to. We move on. It’s funny how many of these types of articles are being written to target Black women, and how Black men are accusing us of dogging them, yet I dont see articles written by Black women putting Black men down.

        • Shellfish789

          I totally agree with you….we have moved on…and whats really sad is when they see us with a non-balck man they have the nerve to get an attitude…..My son is bi-racial and thank GOD …I don’t have that Black Drama,  Black men bring to the table….they can be .rich or poor….

          • Facts Only

             But don’t black women do the same thing when they see us with a white woman or a woman who is not black??

        • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_YJW2HKBIBSRGOLC6Y5AVYT526Y Just-Thinking

          Yes, i do, In the 90′s Black men was being dog not only by the system but black woman a well, so moving to the 2000′s you guys ar being dog out and not only that with shows like basketball wives is making you guys look worse for brothas not to date you, like yall don’t have no moral or respect for yourselves. Don’t blame me, blame Shanie o’neal for that! Why? I don’t see shows like the intelligent Sista Dr. Frances Cress-Welsing huh? You know why ? Because your being controled by society norms and fads to mole you, and yall don’t see it. Prime example: Look what happen to Nas! He married that woman Kelis and got her pregant and in one year move to C.A. and divorce him. And file for alimony and child support quick? Can somebody explain that about that Sista? She was making good music and had a career, but soon she seen a come up, she took that route. And i don’t see Sistas is wrong with that?

          • Afhjhj

            dude, learn to string a sentence together. this makes no sense

          • terbear

            It’s called being a gold digga “Just thinking”. Never liked her. And I refuse to watch stupid shows like Basketball wives! Another show that make black women look bad!

    • Brook

      If you sit around and listen to black women talk to each other, nine times out of ten, they are talking about relationships.  They are also complaining about how brothers don’t do nothing right and all this other stuff.  Maybe we have to stop being delusional and realize that some of this stuff is true.  There are bitter women out there, a lot. 

      • Shellfish789

        There are bitter women in all races….WHY are they Bitter…? that’s the question?…maybe they are bitter because Men have made them bitter….they have been F…over so many times…..

        • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_YJW2HKBIBSRGOLC6Y5AVYT526Y Just-Thinking

          No, stop cup-caking to them! Just act right and you be treated right!

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_YJW2HKBIBSRGOLC6Y5AVYT526Y Just-Thinking

        But their not looking for the educated brotha at all, they want the criminal and drama in their life. And no blasphemy and diss to Jesus. In which in my opinion Jesus is a Brotha (black). And do the research you find that out. But before some of these Sistas go to sleep at night they don’t call our name out, they be calling that Cracka Jesus name out from what they learn from their fake churches.

        • Shirley955

          Just-Thinking   Are you really thinking at all?

  • http://www.bywordbook.blogspot.com Minister Mark McNeil

    The issues of the children of slavery must always be address in the context of slavery and its effect. For example, what was our nationality before we were enslaved and called niggers? The sisters are out of universal order, most of them have decided to choose their womanhood over nationhood by following the BS of femenist which is a Gentile caucasian women issue they had with their violent and insecure Gentile caucasian men. The sisters have played the Willie Lynch card to help themselves (selfish) rather than thier nation.  

  • http://www.bywordbook.blogspot.com Minister Mark McNeil

    Why are sister are singal and lonely? “Submit” Since the beginning male/female relationship centers around the men. How a woman should adjust her life around how to please her man as a helpmate. Nature submits to  her order and role to spring forth life and harmony.  The Sun has its role, the moon, stars has its role. We do not see the moon trying play the role of the sun. There are four season. Winter is not trying to be spring.  The children of slavery will not let their master go!  There should be no person bitter, angry, piss off than the so-called men of slavery.  Have you been looking for Mr. Right for all the wrong reasons or is Ms. Wrong been looking for Mr. Right? It’s time for the Brothers to take their rightful role and be men and leaders of the world. The relationship is center around the men for the men are the head.

    • Chyeah

      Sorry, but women should not submit to those who do not know how to lead.

      That submit bs doesn’t fly in this day and age where most men abuse or misuse their position as ‘head of household.’

      Too many black women had to be the mother, father, breadwinner and sole provider, so good luck in trying to preach that mess to those who know the real deal.

      • Minister7

        “Submit”  “Submit bs doesn’t fly in this day and age” according to who? and is the the mess your preaching? according to what Gospel? Do you even understand you have submitted to some one? Whoever taught you that submit bs doesn’t fly in this day and age is your head.

        Leadership, no one should submit to anyone who doesn’t know how to lead. My question is what contributions have you made to help your brothers lead?  And a person cannot lead until they learn how to follow instructions “submit”  Furthermore, most sister would not recognize a real brother, man, or  leader if he was in their face.

        Most women are misuse because they want to be misuse. 

        Too many sisters had to be the mother, father, breadwinner, and sole provider”  Why? “Willie Lynch letter”  too many brothers and sisters are ingorant about slavery and their history.

        The plan was too make the sister the head of the house to reverse roles as I stated slavery was all about destorying the brothers because women are no threat. In war to conquer a nation you have to kill the men.
        You sister have been decieve and used by the serpent again.
        You are not threat!  

        However, real strong women stick by their men, nation, culture, and race when they are being attack like Esther, Harriet Tubman, Judith,  Ida B. Wells etc.  (like the Mexican, Arab, Caucasian, Asaian, and Indian women do  because they understand nationhood over womanhood)

        Sistsers you have been miseducated and you need to return to school to be educated because real education is based on knowledge of self and every nation understands this.

        • Afroparenting

           You & a great number of black men have been drinking the same kool-aid.  Get a new script. 

          • Minister7

            You sound like a stupid woman however,
            Afroparenting What’s your nationality? 
            When you grow up and learn what it means to be a woman esp. a woman in the land of their capitivity then write me because you’re not worthy of a real brother with real conversation, understanding, leadership, and solutions.  

            Oh by the way what have you been drinking? What’s your script? And more important who wrote your script? 

          • Afroparenting

            Far from it… Not here to go back & forth… just change your darn script… thus …think for your freaking self -vs- this eurocentric modality

          • Minister7

            Erocontric modality?

            What’s your nationality?

      • Minister7

        Chyeah, please let me explain my position I am not here to save, love, or convert the world or everyone (I’m saving myself). However, if we as a people are going solve our problems we must be honsest with ourselves and stop being defensive when truth is being taught or spoke. I uderstand women are lead most of the time by their emotions (this is one of the reason why a man must lead) but try hard not to punish every brother for the mistakes of the brother you dated or married and I’ll do the same.

        Submitting is an act of strength (not weakness) depending on who and what you are submitting too. A real woman will recognize a leader and be willing to submit. 

        Chyeah are you submiitting to the truth or lie?

        You submit the the laws of America right? You submit the rules of your job?  Are you submitting to a feminist philosophy? Plan parenthood?  The American miseducation system? Equality BS?

        Submitting is simple being in the natural order of life. Like Parent and children relationship. If sisters do not want to submit then why are they complaining about how miserable and bitter they are. I don’t want to hear it!

        The law of attraction! You’re spirit will attract the same type of spirit so examine what spirit you have. This is the first issue I consider when dealing with women especially Black women because they are highly spiritulal. And most of the sisters are filthily (spiritually) this is why they’re attracting filthy spirits (men).  

        A relationship is center around the man and the woman was made for the man.

        If you don’t want to submit to the truth, then you’ll submit to the lie, and if you submit to the lie then don’t cry about the consequences of the lie.

      • Minister7

        Chyeah, please let me explain my position I am not here to save, love, or convert the world or everyone (I’m saving myself). However, if we as a people are going solve our problems we must be honsest with ourselves and stop being defensive when truth is being taught or spoke. I uderstand women are lead most of the time by their emotions (this is one of the reason why a man must lead) but try hard not to punish every brother for the mistakes of the brother you dated or married and I’ll do the same.

        Submitting is an act of strength (not weakness) depending on who and what you are submitting too. A real woman will recognize a leader and be willing to submit. 

        Chyeah are you submiitting to the truth or lie?

        You submit the the laws of America right? You submit the rules of your job?  Are you submitting to a feminist philosophy? Plan parenthood?  The American miseducation system? Equality BS?

        Submitting is simple being in the natural order of life. Like Parent and children relationship. If sisters do not want to submit then why are they complaining about how miserable and bitter they are. I don’t want to hear it!

        The law of attraction! You’re spirit will attract the same type of spirit so examine what spirit you have. This is the first issue I consider when dealing with women especially Black women because they are highly spiritulal. And most of the sisters are filthily (spiritually) this is why they’re attracting filthy spirits (men).  

        A relationship is center around the man and the woman was made for the man.

        If you don’t want to submit to the truth, then you’ll submit to the lie, and if you submit to the lie then don’t cry about the consequences of the lie.

        • Chyeah

          Sorry Minister, but I’ve un-subscribed from the ‘we as a people’ meme a long time ago. I won’t be a mule for those who don’t appreciate it, so it’s all about me and me only.

          I don’t submit to anyone who cannot handle being the lead. And that’s not what I want (nor have currently) as a mate. 

          And if you’re asking if I submit to the laws of man, yes i do, because that is the existence in which we live. I do obey the rules to avoid jail, being unemployed, and financially broke. That’s not being difficult, but picking and choosing my battles carefully because self-preservation is very important to me.

          I will not stay with a sinking ship and that is the doomed black community.

           

          • Minister7

            All you sisters should read what Chyeah said and take a look in the mirror.  

            Chyeah It seems you did not comprehend  the concept that all nature including mankind “Submit”

            Let’s break her words  down 

            Chyeah “It’s all about me and me only”
            Finally a least you’re being honest.
            hear lies the real issue with these sisters who have been Europeanize (Bastardize) for lack of knowledge of self, history, culture, and identity.

            Chyeah said she has “un-subscribed from the we as a people”   Self-hate!,  Chyeah what’s your nationality?

             Chyeah said “she will not be a mule for those who dont’ appreciate it”  A bitter so-called Black woman.

            Chyeah made “Submit” synonyms with being a mule?
            Lack of education, understand, and character”

            Solution: Find a man who does appreciate you.You’re fake as the American paper dollar you believe is worth value.  

            “Doomed so-called Black community”

            The holocuast of slavery is a testimonty of our superiority.
            If we survived slavery then we must have a great future and destiny that was ordian from the beginning of time.

            Sister don’t believe the hype the children of slavery are not doomed.

            Finally, we cannot talk about  any issues without talking about the cause “Slavery” and effect.    

            Moreover, Chyeah I really don’t give dam wether you hear or not. I’m great student of history and therefore, I understand and know your end but I really don’t give a dam.My message is for sisters who have ears to hear not the losers.

            So Chyeah go ahead and jump ship it’s all good it’s all a part of the sifting process. However, but before you jump you should consider what you’re jumping into.

              

          • Chyeah

            …and i’m still happy with my life and my mate…

            …can you say the same, Minister?…

      • Odile

        Chyeah, the good Minister would rather turn a blind eye to the realities of life and pretend they are all worthy of ‘submitting’ to.  They are running scared their ‘back up units’ are losing interest and using common sense going forward.  They expect automatic support yet are unwilling to reciprocate.  Research Umoja village in Kenya when you have a chance. 

        • Minister7

          Prehaps you should look  more closely at the history and rituals of the Samburu people to understand that rituals gental mutulation sometimes often occurs (in which I do not agree) rendering pleasure for mostly visting foreigners moot. Perhaps your visitation concerns need to be broaden so that you understand the continuting  dollar neo-colonialist vistors and commentators and the role that they play in perpetuating their own petty degrading beliefs about Africans of all nations in both genders.   

          Is there any real woman that can or will reply to my points I’m addressing rather than making snarky remarks. I’m a  brother that protects the sisterhood (not those sisters who perpetuate fictions and falsehood) In others word it’s all about the Nation,

  • Thefinaldance

    In the bible says” A man that finds a wife, finds a good thing and obtain favor from the Lord’ so as women it’s not suppose to be in our nature to look for a man, but it is in our nature to desire to be married , so we have to allow God to continue to work on us so we can be in the position to be found by the one man that God has ordain to be your husband, and No he will not be perfect as well as us woment when he finds you but together in Christ you two to strive to become perfected in God.

  • Shellfish789

    Here we go with BASHING BLACK WOMEN AND Writing negitive articles to assume….Some Black women are single because they do and will not deal with the BS BM are dishing out or men in general…….we have more respect for ourselves, good mothers and good partners….

    The reason why all of this BW bashing is BM are runing in droves to other women because they can walk all over them, contuine to be on the DL, have multiple women on the side, be abusive and they WILL ALLOW it..

    A BW is not going to let you do that to them without telling you about it……  
    BM likes to go with women that’s easy….not going to give them a hard time while they do their “Thing”

    If you look around Black women are oeing copied from all races, getting false lips, hips, butts, breast, hair and our ways of talking…something who wrong here!

    If MEN want a good woman in their life, who would stick with them thru thick and thin  they would have to get a Black woman…anything else is based on material things and would leave you in times of trouble or if you go BROKE! or unfamous

  • Deemcgee09

    It is strange how we forget that there are other things to talk about. We do not get together and talk about relationships. We talk about health, wellness, retirement, family, our own desires, how we plan to stay healthy, our travel plans. What make people think that we only talk about relationships. We have all been married to the same people for the last 40 years.
    And if we did not have our own black men, it is not like there are not other men in the world. Get a grip, all of our kids are marrying whoever. And they do not all look like us. So talk about some thing else that is worthy while. Like how do you plan to take care of yourself when you get to be 80 years old.

  • Anonymous

    Unfortunately, the problem with black women may very well be a mental health issue. 

    It is not economic because there are thousands of six figure black coulples across the country headed for divorce.  It is not spiritual because black people spend more time in church than anybody else.

    The recent article by Tracy McMillan in the Huffington Post said it best.  As a black female, she admitted that the number one reason black women can’t find husband’s is because quote “You are a bitch (consumed with anger)” unquote. 

    And forget about the “hoochie”  “thug” culture.  People who participate in that insanity cannot possibly reap anything good or lasting.  The issue is the black middle class family that is keeping black america on the radar.  And the black middle class family is dying. 

    Even scarier, it seems to be a “fad” for black women to be angry and spend their days telling everybody off.  Of course, with all their blble training, they forget the passage that warns, “Only a fool destroys her own home and family.”

    • Odile

      Anonymous, this woman appears biracial and did not even mention Black women ONCE in that article. 
       
      Notice all the other articles by white women speaking on this ‘same’ issue just below hers.
       

    • Doturner2u

      What passage is that?  LOL  That’s just common sense, but why do you imply that black women “destroy their homes and families” ?  If they don’t have husbands and children, how iis it possible to have “homes and families” to destroy?  I know, I  know, here I go, yet another black woman trying to make people accountable and support the derogatory comments made about black women.  The nerve of me.  LOL

  • Panther

    The article overall is good and accurate.  I also agree with Odile and Education.  A black man will dog a woman out then expect her to not get mad about it.  We are human beings with feelings and women tend to show our feelings as opposed to men who internalize, but you hear some so called bitter men complaining about women who have done them wrong also.  I’m sick and tired of people acting like women of other races don’t express bitter feelings towards men.  Other races go through the same things that we do as black women.  And I’m single and like Odile said I’m pretty much indifferent and yes I notice the men are surprised, keep it up ladies, I will no longer allow a man to control my emotional health.  For anyone who is bitter I hope they don’t stay there forever, of course your going to go through a period of morning or remorse, etc, it’s only natural.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/James-Causey/787906387 James Causey

    I know a lot of couples who are together and bitter.

    • Odile

      I have a friend grappling with bitterness between her elderly parents.  She bent my ear for hours just the other night.  The kids are now trying to devise a plan to separate the parents before long.

  • Vandellish

    *****************************************************************
    ***************************************
    Sorry so damn long y’all ;)

    I don’t know about all single black women but I’ve
    always felt that a lot of ‘career gal’ single black women are a little bitter
    because they typically don’t have the kind of options that men do. I only refer
    to black women here because I don’t have a lot of experience with non-black
    women.
    Here’s what I know:

    A ‘career guy’ can be very average or even unattractive
    and somewhat socially inept or low-key. He’ll keep his nose clean and go out
    and make a name for himself in business or whatever and have a lot of options
    socially if he wants. He’s a decent man with a great profile in terms of $,
    home, car, social standing, etc…All of these things are important and
    attractive to women and most importantly healthy to HIS OWN SELF IMAGE. My
    template as a kid was Main Source’s 1990 song ‘Watch Roger Do His Thing.’ (Back
    when BET was showing positive concept videos. Make no mistake, those messages
    are still being spoken, but BET is now Viacom and…well that’s a different
    post altogether.)

    A ‘career gal’ can do the same. She’ll go out
    and do even better than the guys in business because she’s even more poised,
    has the natural ability to multitask, is attractive, strong and overall
    on-point with hers. However, she’ll quickly realize that most men not only don’t
    care about her strength or business prowess but are even repelled by it. She’s
    not able to attract a quarter of the attention of the successful man because:

    1) The lack of the number of eligible men for
    her that match her status, race, age range, etc…

    2) Many men are intimidated by successful
    women. This is related directly to the traditional roles of men as the main
    breadwinner that many men won’t let go of and the fact that many black women who
    hold powerful career positions often exude a level of self-importance that is
    seen as unattractive to men. Yeah, I said it.

    3) The lack of attraction to men of other
    races or the non-willingness to try an interracial relationship because of social
    stigmas, friends and family’s take on it and things of that nature.

    These same women may find out the things that
    DO attract most men such as a certain level submissiveness, dressing a certain
    way (tight clothing, makeup, high heels, hair extensions and/or upkeep, etc.), being
    sexually forward, watching and TRULY enjoying sports (like she would watch it even
    by herself), etc….These things, though they may attract men, may not be
    necessarily be her true essence nor are they good for HER OWN SELF IMAGE. For
    her to give in to these trappings would almost certainly cause a level of
    resentment and inevitable bitterness.

    I’m a 37 year old strong black man who is tall,
    athletic, attractive and extremely youthful looking. I’m a professional with no
    children, never been married, no criminal record and I carry a positive but
    realistic and balanced soul with me everywhere I go. With my profile I thought
    that I would be a slam dunk as far as being someone who’d find a soul mate but
    so far…nothing. Am I bitter? Not in the least. I look at my search as exciting
    and a chance to experience new things, new women and dare I say…variety! Many
    people would say that I’m too picky, all over the place or that I’m running out
    of time. Oh well, that’s their own template and opinion. I respect it but I’ve
    got to do this my way and any mistakes made will be my own and not someone else’s
    interpretation of what I should or shouldn’t do.

    I think the solution is to accept the fact
    that not all of us are going to be or stay married period. It’s sad but true. I
    was raised to believe that although I need people in my life for millions of
    reasons I am still whole all by myself…and it’s ok. If you are a man or woman
    who simply can’t live alone then by all means find the best partner that you
    can. I think if we can accept and forgive ourselves in all our individual glory
    then we can release any feelings of bitterness and open ourselves to all the blessings
    that await us.

    Good luck to all of you and
    thanks for reading.
    ********************************************************************************************************

    • Odile

      Vandellish, you may want to check out this book to understand it ain’t just a Black woman problem even though so many of you may relish, clinge to and spread that faulty logic…

      “Manning Up: How the Rise of Women Has Turned Men into Boys” by
      Kay Hymowitz

      • Vandellish

        I agree that it’s not exclusively a black woman problem. I never said it was. However, I pretty much deal exclusively with black women. I can only speak from my own experiences and they all have been with single black women.
        Now if/when I decide to date other races of women I’m sure I will find out that they have these same problems and a certain rhythm to their souls too.
        I’ll check out that book and thanks for reading. Wit yo mean azz! lol

    • Anonymous

      @Vandeliish:disqus
      I respect your opinions! Some are very true. You are definitely a catch if your “I’m a 37 year old strong black man who is tall, athletic, attractive and extremely youthful looking. I’m a professional with no children, never been married, no criminal record and I carry a positive but realistic and balanced soul.” I’m a single black woman. I have a question for you. There are so many single black women out here today that I’m sure you’ve had to run across some meant your expectation. Why as a black man you have not settled down with one? I have many black male friends who sound just like yourself (have it all together). You know what they all tell me there reason is….lol… They simply like playing the field…Do you think that could add to our black single female bitter ways????

      • Vandellish

        Honestly chattygirl35 each time I thought I’d found the one it turned out I was wrong. The reasons have varied but they mostly revolved around me not sharing their religious beliefs (our people can be very dogmatic and region biased) or simply that I wasn’t as well off financially at the time of our relationship as they’d like me to be. With each relationship that’s ended over the past 7 years of my life the woman always came back to me with hopes of reconciliation but my feelings had changed and I have issues with being that ‘emergency break glass guy.’

        • Anonymous

          Vandellish, religious beliefs can be a big one. As African American we are very set on our religious beliefs. We like to think that we center our lives around those beliefs but most time we dont…lol.. But the same thing applies to us as women. We have some of the same problems with men. It could be simple as religious beliefs or maybe we are not were we should be at the time financially. The bottom line is black women have so many reasons for being single rather than just being bitter.. Do you get where I’m trying to go with this one? And I’m happy to hear that you stand your ground when those ladies try to re-enter your life as if your an object and not a person. :) But we have to start off with men like yourself giving black women a break and not thinking that we are all bitter or evil. We have to admit as you just have that sometimes we just pick the wrong ones…

          • Vandellish

            Well for the record…
            1. I don’t think that all or even most single black women are bitter.
            2. I think that black women should date outside of their race if they are sexually attracted to other races of men (it shouldn’t have to do with not finding what you want in black men).
            3. I think you are a warm and open-minded spirit.
            Much love to you.

          • Anonymous

            Vandellish, Thank you@b28435a68c68f6762eee4143d1038e34:disqus
            See that’s how we should get along as African American. Perfect example. Maybe we should get you to start doing interventions. lol..Just joking. I don’t want to set anyone off on this page. And since your so understanding feel free to contact me anytime at cdbuntyn@yahoo.com…lol..

          • Anonymous

            Vandellish, you will be surprised!

    • GoodAdvice

      “Picky” is not the word.  ARROGANCE is the correct word.

      As for Black women “dating out,” they should NEVER follow the example of Black males who “date out.”  Follow what Black WOMEN who “date out” advise.  Example:  From experience, as a Black woman, when you meet someone who is a non-Black male, and you really have feelings for him, do not let your girlfriends or family advise you against following your heart.  That’s the solution to our “dating out” problem.  Not what Black males or anyone else tells you.

      • Vandellish

        I agree with you SisterAgrees…thanks for reading.

  • George Edwards

    Dr.Boyce, Respect due for your thoughts…one of the realest articles of 2011. PEACE OUT & STAY BLACK OOMGO

  • Panther

    @abf2a4ccc316fcb40cbfc55c5cf9ee1d:disqus  read your post, yes long, you sound like your guilty of holding a sterotypical image about what women want.  The contemporary intelligent black woman like myself knows that she does not have to feel bad because she is single.  From what you wrote you think because a woman is single that automatically translates into she is bitter, not true.  We think just like you I live alone and have no children and I’m okay with it, I have a problem when people start judging me, they automatically think I’m sad because of my situation and that is not true, that’s what bother me.  I will be glad when people get over it, being single is not a death sentence, it is not sad at all, it’s about how you look at it and I can accept what comes my way.  Also what I don’t like about the article is the implication that because a woman has trust issues that means she is bitter.  Having trust issues simply means you take longer to trust people, these stereotypes are what hurt more than being single.  I really wish people would stop judging others and stop making comments based on speculation or some antiquated belief system.

    • Vandellish

      Thanks again for reading. A few things tho:
      1. What stereotypical images did I suggest?
      2. I actually wrote that being single (for however long) is OK too and I didn’t say this thinking was exclusive to me or men in general. I don’t think you missed it so we actually agree here.
      3. I also wrote about several actual women who I know or have I’ve come across that ARE bitter about having limited choices in men. I never said ALL women. I intentionally tempered my statements by using words like ‘most’, ‘a lot’ or ‘many’ when speaking about the women I actually know.
      4. I didn’t speak at all about trust issues so I figure you’re speaking about the article itself and not my post.
      I agree that we must judge each situation individually but you seem to either be fishing for an argument or simply want to set me straight. Since I don’t argue online please set me straight on where I was out of line here because I thought that I’d brought up good points that hadn’t been touched on yet. Everyone on this site is speaking from personal experience so no need to pardon myself when I do the same.

    • Odile

      Another excellent post, Panther!  I wonder if these men truly appreciate the diversity among Black women.  I’m truly glad not to have the same problems and regrets many of my married friends have confided…though not all of them are in the same boat.  It’s absolutely possible to feel whole even when single especially if you have people and activities that you love.  Peace of mind is a mutha!

    • Anonymous

      @ca23af53e3b2041a186258e022c5591d:disqus
       I totally agree. I’m a single black woman too! Of course, no one wants to be alone but until God sends the one I’m content! It’s not that I can not get a black man I’m just awaiting for the right one to come along. Just as black men have expectations so does black women. We should not have to take the first black man who comes running just because we are single..lol.. We have preferences too! I have seen several of my friends “throw in the towel” meaning they take the first black man come their way because they are afraid of being alone. But, to only marry the man and be divorced from committing adultery 2 or 3 years later. BLACK SINGLE WOMEN enjoy yourselves, LIVE, SMILE, BE HAPPY and Thank God that you have good health and the ability to choose your man based on the 5 SENSES GOD GAVE YOU!  

      LOVE!

  • Odile

    You nailed it, Panther.  Folks of all stripes want their ‘mammies’ back now that the wind of indifference is spreading.  It’s almost as if we are being reviled for ‘accepting’ the hand we were dealt and working with it.  There is a reason Black women are constantly being bombarded with these useless articles.

  • Anonymous

    Black women we need to stop commenting to these articles.  It’s a waste of time and life.  At the end of the day, nothing will be accomplished.   These articles erodes your self-esteem.  Just stop posting and debating others on these threads, and eventually news companies won’t bring them up.  If your tired of these articles, click on another topic to discuss.   Remember: It takes two to argue.

    • SisterAgrees

      EXCELLENT ADVICE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • Guest

      excellent point loveliess33! thank u for the reminder, and on that note, i’m leaving this article pronto!

      • SisterAgrees

        After my last post, I’m gone too, FOR SURE!

      • SisterAgrees

        After my last post, I’m gone too, FOR SURE!

  • Jovaneric

    black women are lonely and sexually frustrated but can’t find a good man if he was planted right in front of them.  I don’t enjoy saying this but black women are quick to attract hoodlum and drug dealers.  While black men with common sense go outside the race for more tamer counterparts.

    • Odile

      Jovaneric, it’s great they are now gravitating towards women who are prone to severing men’s penises, shooting/strangeling them in their sleep or while brushing their teeth or tied to bedposts.  Poor Abraham Shakespeare was bilked out of his $30M lottery winnings by a ‘tamer counterpart’ who had him murdered by the very men she splurged ‘his’ money on.  A newlywed Black businessman was slain by his Indian bride in Dix Hills…strangled with a heavy duty extension cord while he slept.  His ‘tamer counterpart’ thought nothing of swiping the car keys to his luxury car within weeks of their marriage so she could spend long weekends with her real love…another Indian  man.  Many of our men are recruited by white men and women to commit murder in hopes of finding love and acceptance from non-Blacks.  Be sure to watch “Snapped” to observe how truly ‘tamer’ the awesome ‘counterparts’ are. 

      • Chyeah

        …they don’t wanna hear that, because their ‘tamer counterparts’ aren’t tame by a long shot…

        …don’t forget Michael Strahan had to bilk ove millions to a ‘tamer counterpart’ and she bragged about not wanting black babies…

        …let’s not forget Stoudemire, who’s ‘tamer counterpart’ ex-wife got his money and even admitting that she had an abortion because she didn’t want black babies…

        …yeah, the truth hurts them when it’s out in the open…

  • Odile

    Here’s a rebuttal to Ms. McMillan’s article on HuffPost…and the writer is NOT a Black woman:

    An Open Letter to the Women Who Are Telling Me It’s My Fault I’m Not Married
    Brienne Walsh
    3/3/11
     
    “Every year, right around Valentine’s Day, a flurry of women write articles directly addressing the large population of single women in New York.
     
    This year, the two that I read were “Why You’re Not Married” by Tracy McMillan, a “Mad Men” staff writer, in The Huffington Post, and “Dear Single Women of NYC: It’s Not Them, It’s You” by Jen Doll in the Village Voice.
     
    Both articles share a message: “Women: it’s your fault that you’re not married, and you should stop bitching about how you can’t find a good man.”
     
    These sorts of articles used to scare the ever-loving daylights out of me; now they’re just infuriating.”

  • Odile

    Ladies this writer at goodmenproject confirms what we’ve long suspected about these type of articles.
     
     Why Don’t Men Settle Down?
    February 15, 2011 By Hugo Schwyzer
     
    “The “man shortage” is a perennial go-to for articles aimed at women readers; these pieces differ mainly in the degree to which they blame the crisis on women’s ambition, pickiness, or sexual aggressiveness.”

  • Mark

    Just an excellent article!
    Well done Dr. Watkins.

  • The Rain

    @Odile and Panther,you people continue to bury your head in the sand.You call it a tired old bag of tricks when black men tell the truth about your unproductive behavior.Truth of the matter is you want to be able to be bitter,combative,mean,selfish etc,but you don’t want to be called on it.Self respecting black men that know their own self worth will tell you the truth about yourselves and not what you just want to hear.Most black women over estimate their value to black men.

    • Odile

      Look how Black marines in San Diego invaded the home of a newlywed white sargeant and Black wife…then proceeded to rob them of wedding gifts,  torture, rape, and shotgun them to death.  Research Jan Pawel & Quiana Pietrzak – October 2008.  Also, a bunch of Oregon State University football players attacked a white serviceman and his Black wife for having a nice time at a dinner dance once evening.  And you can bet your bottom dollar all of those players had white girlfriends but simply hate the idea that Black women are going on about their business. 

      Also, are Black women more combative than the non-Black woman who cancelled Steve McNair?

  • The Rain

    That’s funny,we would have to actually see you with a guy of another race and actually care about you and your stank attitude to be upset . We don’t see that many of you with any man.You are fat,you have children out of wedlock,you arer bitter,you have a financial net worth of only $5.0 ,you sell sex for tuition,you are combative,you will screw for food or a nice hand bag,It’s not you ,it’s the black man fault utult that have no setulf control.

  • Er3hrr

    Dr Boyce,

    Thank you for delivering a balanced, well-thought- out post. You did not fall for the finger pointing and popularity seeking analysis of most. We could use an intelligent man to make sense of this world. We cannot count on Michael Baisden, Tom Joyner, Steve Harvey and others because they say whatever is popular and what they can get way with.

    Our communities need to reteach relationships. The best source I have found is in the book The Ten Relationship Rules For Family Power by Eric Harriel. And we must teach about relationships before the children turn age 7. And we must be constant examples of these new relationship rules before children even like the other gender.

     

  • http://www.PositivityProductions.org Aisha

    We are not bitter ………..we are angry …A”YES WE ARE ANGRY …BITTERNESS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH IT!!!!…..and with good reason!  When black men do better as a Diaspora ……….Stop having “WHITE MALE FEAR”!  STOP KILLING EACH OTHER IN EVERY MAJOR CITY EVERY NIGHT………AND THE WHITE MALE FEAR.STOP SLEEPING WITH WHITE WOMEN AS SOON AS YOU GET A DOLLAR!!!!! T.O. DO YOU HEAR ME!!! …iTs evident ….I saw it first hand  when I was registering them for Barak Obama; and I see every day in the community, in your behavior (not all, but too many) I see it in my own brothers ( I am an only female in my immediate family)…….I see it all the time! Black men are still scared and in awe of the “white male”!  And until ya’ll stop it………..we are doomed to second class citizendry”!  Throughout the Diaspora!  Black men are still scared(not all but too many)!!! I know …I grew up in the house with all brothers …I see it everyday in you alls behavior…I saw it as I registered brothers to vote for Barak Obama and they told me they were considering not voting because they were afraid he would be killed………..Here I was out every night walking the streets to make sure every brother I met was registered and they were scared…………I see it in the self hate you all display when you shoot each other at night in the black neighborhoods all over the planet and whenever you allow the white man or others enter your community and set up shop! with out so much as a protest!  ITs the 21st Century and you all still allow the white man to bring drugs into your community where your babies sleep ….when you all allow the “Lil Wayne’s” of the world to walk around you with their pants down…..when you covet your brothers wife and you when you dont put on a condom and make babies and you dont have a GED!  Oh thats fear of success ………..When on the continent of Africa you allow any an everyone else influence you to kill each other while they rob you of your resources…..SEE THE WHITE CAN DO WHAT YOU ALL ALLOW HIM TO DO” …LETS REMEMBER PHYSICALLY YOU ALL OUT NUMBER HIM ON THIS PLANET!  …MAN UP ..BLACK POWER!!! NOT ALL BLACK MEN …JUS TOO MANY!!

    • terbear

      AMEN!!

  • Anonymous

    Black single women are not bitter. We are tired! Tired of hearing that we are bitter, hard to get along with, ugly, not better than white or any other race of women, disease infested, not educated, on welfare, aggressive, and many other derogatory characteristics! I believe that society only looks in from the outside. Unless you are a single black female I wish you would not judge! I am a single black female, educated 35 year old, never married with one child which is a boy and I’m raising him with help from his father. I get so tired of hearing all these negative things about single black women. I can only speak for myself on why black women may seem bitter to society. I do not feel its because we do not have a man. I feel its because we have to live up to this so called “Strong woman” image that we are portrayed to be. When our relationships fail we are taught to keep our hands up and keep moving. Even if its raising the kids alone, getting our education, being the best on our jobs, ensuring that we are financially stable and just living up to the so called “strong woman” image. When the white woman relationship fails it’s okay for her to go back home to her parents and be rescued! They are not expected to be the “strong woman”. They are usually saved by parents or a new husband. In the black community we lack eligible black men to rescue or save us and sometimes our parents don’t have the means to save us! I just think that society needs to reevaluate the situation. I personally believe its just a socioeconomic problem.

    • Odile

      chattygirl35, you forgot one…we all love thugs and drug dealers solely.  This is their number one mantra. 

      • Anonymous

        Odile, that is not true! I do not like thugs or drug dealers. Not all single black women prefer those kind of men. Usually the drug dealers and thugs have girlfriends or boyfriends.

        • Odile

          chatty, I’m just pointing out this lie Black men love spewing that should have been included on your first list.  That nauseating line is repeated over and over…nonstop.  The term ‘moll’ was first used to describe white women who hung with gangsters…and they still do love all manner of criminals.  It’s shocking to learn how Black men process information and filter out anything that doesn’t jibe their fantasies.  What bothers me is they expect us to exalt an deify non-Blacks same as they do. 

  • Eervin44

    I can not say anything right now, I’m laughing at the sister in the picture how her face is looking like she smell somthing, why they had to show this picture this is tooooo funny:) Sorry…This made my day…

  • The Rain

    Aisha,you might want to get out more.You do know that everything is not relative to your limited and narrow minded view of the world,right?If most of the black males you know are afraid of white males and are as pathological as you exaggerate,it’s more of a reflection on you than them.All I hear is a bunch of hormone imbalanced emotional rhetoric.And we all know that emotions can’t sustain you in a time of crisis.And for goodness sake,we get it,black men ain’t shit!Now can you great black women tell us what’s so great about Yall?Black men ain’t shit,yet no other man wants the great and divine black women.I would be impressed if you wonderful black females could just stop tripping,slipping and falling on all those scared,jealous ,scared and ain’t shit black down low men’s dick.

  • The Rain

    @Odile,you might want to put that pipe down.Only a loser would care if you people just so happen to run across some non black guy that wants something other than to pork Yall.If you have to lie to get your point across,you have no point.Fact of the matter is non black guys don’t like fat women.Black women are the most fat women demo.Most non black guys also don’t like to date women with children.Guess who’s the demo with the most out of wedlock children?Let me help! you,BLACK AMERICAN WOMEN!Most non black men hate women that act like men.Aw damn,you hormone imbalanced Americanized ball busters are the most masculine women around.You don’t want to be called bitter,broke,begging,bull daggers,etc,stop being those non productive things.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_YJW2HKBIBSRGOLC6Y5AVYT526Y Just-Thinking

    O’le please, I don’t have white male fear. I just have a problem with what black people decide to live in their environments. Where you live at decides what you may become. Again, i say this so many times, on this site. Black people wake up! Thier is a God o.k. lets get that straight but start re-educating yourself on math and sciences and may be we can move better in society. Moving on, for my Sistas just like I tell my sisters, if brothas is treating you wrong start dating outside your race. I push that hard because it makes no difference in today what race you are. You just want a man to treat you right and take care of you with respect. The same goes for my brothas , if black woman is not treating you right, date outside your race because we are men and we want respect.  Now, for the angry sistas this is why black men date out side our race because you don’t know how to control your anger. i feel you sistas be working with the Otha Man and don’t know it by helping to put black men in prison too, by your actions (not supporting a brotha when he hits rock bottom). Don’t play with me! You know the deal! I’m raising my daughter to be an educated black woman! My daughter already know three languages, and smart in Math. I’m not teaching her to hate her-self by doing the fads of our culture of today or to hate other races becuase of their skin color. I’m teaching her to be respectful of others and defend herself when she have too. Now to be respectful not all Sistas (the educated ones) is turning Brothas in to the Otha Man mass factory low-cost paying production of products (prison) , but the majority is doing this to us by playing in the norms and fads of the environment around our race.  Yall, Sista want respect , stop this yall and maybe more black men will consider dating our own. Becuase really you Sistas are the most beautiful woman on the planet but have the most worse shity attitude problems when things don’t go your way.   

  • Odile

    @Jovaneric and The Rain, have you noticed the ‘tamer counterparts’ have taken to killing and dismembering Black men with the help of their own flesh and blood?  Here’s enough info to research the entire saga if you so choose to.
     
     A North Carolina woman and her two teenage children have been charged with the murder of her long-term boyfriend and father of her children.Police discovered the dismembered body of 51-year-old David Green Jr who authorities said was decapitated and stuffed in a freezer.Wendy Green was arrested along with their daughter Alexis, 17, and son David Green III who were charged in juvenile petitions.Mr Green’s body was found on October 6 at his home in Raleigh, N.C. after he was reported missing on September 1.An arrest warrant shows that authorities now believe the crime may have happened sometime in mid-January 2009.

  • an educated sista

    maybe i’m totally off topic, but what’s to say it’s necessarily ethically wrong to sell drugs? isn’t that what doctors do–which fits the successful white man role? being a business man takes incentive, especially when there are risk. many people can respect that. the problems that attach to it are often socially enforced by white law makers to break up the moral fabric of the people.

  • Sgfj

    black women aren’t single and bitter about black men, we are angry that you would use an image from a blatantly racist tv commercial in conjunction with our name. black men can date/marry be with whoever/hoe-ever they want, but do not smear black women’s name to defend for your preference. and btw, dr. idiot watkins, the woman in the pepsi commercial your image references obviously wasn’t single.

    black men like you, along with the racist white ideology you support and represent, need to take your obvious hatred and bitterness towards black women somewhere else.

    • Odile

      Excellent post!  Black women are soft targets for Black men and anyone else who wants to joint them.  Recognizing this tactic keep tensions high and make us have no use for fake dialogue with Black men.  We understand how their smear campaign spreads through other communities and make life more difficult for us.  Black men are one of the biggest supporters of white supremacy today, and it all because of their cowardice and efforts to protect themselves…and themselves alone!

    • Odile

      Excellent post!  Black women are soft targets for Black men and anyone else who wants to joint them.  Recognizing this tactic keep tensions high and make us have no use for fake dialogue with Black men.  We understand how their smear campaign spreads through other communities and make life more difficult for us.  Black men are one of the biggest supporters of white supremacy today, and it all because of their cowardice and efforts to protect themselves…and themselves alone!

  • Sherit

    Where is this coming from? Just a year ago I read an article, in a white mag (forgot the name), where there was a survey on groups who were the happiest. It was a woman’s magazine. it stated that single black women were happier than married white women. Some reasons for this were that black women no longer feel pressured, or are made to feel less than, because they are single and with child. And that white women, though generally better off, generally feel more under stress. Am I the only one who read this? If I had known this would be an issue now, I would have saved the article. It also stated that black men felt less happy than before. A lot of these article are generally “psycho babble”‘ but in light of such a recent article, I’m surprised to hear, once more, about the bitter black woman. You do realize that a lot of whites accuse Michelle Obama of being bitter and she is a happily married women with a wonderful family. Is she bitter? Really? You can’t “fly off the handle” based
    on everything you hear of read. The public needs to pay more attention to who’s writing these articles and why.

    • frdmequal

      I have to agree with you on one point. Never take a magazine’s word as gospel. However, I must disagree with you about the bitterness of black women. From my personal conversations with black men and women, I agree, many black women are bitter. Just because the conclusion is unfavorable does not make it wrong.
      I can conclude that many black men do not understand their value to the human family and thus do not adequately stand up for themselves or the family. Not favorable, but true in my opinion.
      Black women have set themselves up to be at odds with black men by blindly following the rules and practices of the child support slavery scam. Black women with average incomes have to know the fathers of their children with average incomes cannot pay child support to them and should not be treated with baby mama drama with respect to custody. And this is true regardles of what some judge has to say. The stats say average income earners need two incomes for one household. If the baby daddy has another house then he cannot possibly provide for her house every month for potentially twenty years. That causes bitterness between us before a child is born or a relationship is exclusive.
      Men need to stop allowing the women to dictate exclusivity and child bearing but instead prepare themselves better. The wishful thinking should be left to the women.

      • Odile

        Here’s a perfect example to prove bitterness is more a mainstay of non-Blacks and they are putting Black men on blast these days.  Research the three parties involved in this lawsuit.

        “SCORNED:A lawyer for Stacey Blitsch (above left) and Amanda Ryncarz says the two have the legal right to post dirt on their ex, Matthew Couloute Jr. (inset).”

      • Odile

        Here’s a perfect example to prove bitterness is more a mainstay of non-Blacks and they are putting Black men on blast these days.  Research the three parties involved in this lawsuit.

        “SCORNED:A lawyer for Stacey Blitsch (above left) and Amanda Ryncarz says the two have the legal right to post dirt on their ex, Matthew Couloute Jr. (inset).”

  • frdmequal

    Black women are single and bitter because they have been duped to believe they are entitlled to advantages over the men such as child custody, child checks, protected rights and threats of jail for the men. If BW would respect themselves as equal they would NOT accept the entitlements. The entitlements help the whiny and irresponsible women trap the men into the child support slavery scam. Men have decided to stay away from the stupid BW and other women face the consequences of the group.

  • The Rain

    In response to the black men that attacked the black women that were married to white guys,do you know for a fact that they were attacked because they were involved with white males or was there some other reasons?I am not saying it was not possible,but the fact still remains,we don’t care.You give us two incidents,but there are not a whole lot of non black guys that are willing to give up their women who actually like men,are worth more than$5.35,don’t act like men,don’t have children already,are not fat,brings something other than a vajajay to the table,are not fat,are not fat and are not fat ,can cook and clean,are not fat,won’t lie on you the way too many fat ,Americanized,fat,chittlin sucking,fat , hormone imbalanced,fat black females will.If you fattys could get white,Asian and Latino men to go against nature and have you,you would’ve already.

  • The Rain

    The Americanized black female,not the African,or Island black women,the American black female is the only black female that has to trick,threat and guilt her own men into wanting to deal with her.And she has to lie on her men and have him not just tell the truth on her to look better than he.They can’t even tell you what’s good about themselves without putting down black men.They learned this spite from weak azz ,insecure white males and perfected it.You fools stop lying on us and we will stop speaking the truth about Yall.

    • Chyeah

      …the biggest coons on this earth are black males…

      …you wanna talk about how black women have to trick, threat or guilt other people, but isnt that what the black male has perfected since years of being dishonest and disrespectful to his own people?…

      …tell the truth and shame the devil, rain…

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_W4URVX2AFXHIKJ2ZF7PVKDRJOY Meangrl

    Black men who chase white women are the first to let that excuse slip from their lips. Truth is, there is a population of black men stuck on weakness and black women are just not having it.

  • Deacs

    I say it may be time to stop looking for villains and heroes amongst the hurt and anguish that both you women and men feel… Sooner or later, accountability and common sense must prevail… for one… not every man or woman messed up your life and hurt you.. and I don’t care if your father left you or your momma emasculated you… you survived, you got a t-shirt, and you gained too many cookies with this to nausea.

    It makes no sense and its a waste of time holding onto those feelings when the person which done it to you gains no anger, you don’t attack them… you attack the rest of the whole sex? Asinine. 

    You see, no one cares of your indifference and anger, no one cares for your pain and what was done to you.. Its not right that those who had no claim to your pain to pay for it.. and you wonder why so many go to another cultural group… but to be honest, most of you already do that because of the circumstance and still want to be angry…

    And its not even the good black men or women amongst you which did it… it was the deviants within the race which did. There are still members of our people able to find a mate, able to get married, able to raise children in a two parent home… maybe you should ask them what they did right and what most of you are doing wrong.

  • terbear

    As a whole race, we really need to learn to respect one another and stop all of the dern hating. I’m a single black woman that is so tired of the BS and disrespect. Black people are so screwed up today! Back in the day, black women were disrespected by the white man. But now, our own black men are doing it. WHY? From the beginning to this day, black women had to be strong! Taking care of the home, the children, the husband, AND working outside of the home. It hurts my heart as black people..we have so much hate with each other. We would rather embrace another culture rather than our own. When are we going to learn? This is what society want us to be. The black family is dissappearing fast! The sad thing is, I love…LOVE a strong black man. They just don’t love us! Shoot! I prefer a man to be head of household. I have the sense to know that not all black men are lazy, irresponsible people that are looking for some woman to “control or take care of them.” There are some out there that are actually good role models. Good husbands! I wish black men could give us the same courtesy. I truly hate when women like me are looped in with the loud mouth, ghetto women they run across. There are some good black men and women out there! We just need to come together! Our race is the race with the most disrespect and ignorance in it! BLACK people, lets get it together!

  • Facts-Only

    I’m responding to the comments, not necessarily the article. So wait a minute, are we saying that this whole bitter thing is just a figment of our imagination. Because women do not choose us, we (men) automatically want to put women in the “bitter” category? HA!!! That is preposterous, the truth is that every race of woman has “bitterness” issues, but the majority refuse to deal with those issues. What they (the ones who are) don’t realize is that it’s this issue that keeps them from moving forward, they claim to forgive but they really haven’t. The key to forgiveness is forgetting, or at least not dwelling on it. I don’t make my assessment on if a woman is bitter or not based on if she wants to deal with me or not, I base it off of how she responds to certain things. When certain topics are brought up how she reacts and speaks on those topics.