Dr. Boyce: T.D. Jakes Speaks Out on Bishop Eddie Long

by Dr. Boyce Watkins

Some have been waiting for Bishop T.D. Jakes to speak up on the scandal involving the other southern megapastor down the road, Bishop Eddie Long.  Jakes recently commented on the case in the Christian Post, stating that Christians should simply pray for Bishop Long because they don’t have the right to do much of anything else.

Long was accused of sexual coercion by four young men in his care at New Birth Missionary Baptist Church.  A lawsuit was filed, which Bishop Long settled for an undisclosed amount of money.  It was reported that Long paid $25 million for the settlement and has chosen to keep the details quiet.

At The Potter’s House in Dallas, Jakes said “Christians should just pray,” for Long.  ”When all this is over, one thing is for sure – somebody, if not everybody in it, is going to need the blood [of Jesus Christ].”

Not only does Jakes say that Christians should pray for Long, he says that they don’t have the authority to do anything else.

“We have no other authority but to pray,” he said. “The New Birth church is a church unto itself who has a board and it has a membership. How they choose to handle their leadership issues it’s not something that we can control regardless of which side you stay on that issue. It is their church issue and their responsibility and their response.”

How convenient that Bishop Long would avoid appearing to support his friend, who might be a gay child molester, but would support his right to handle the situation in his own, private way.  With Bishop Jakes’ remarks, in conjunction with those of Creflo Dollar, we are finding that friendship can go much deeper than doing the right thing when it comes to protecting our colleagues.

I wish I could be more diplomatic when discussing the remarks of Bishop Jakes, who is a man I could end up meeting at some point in the near future.  But when it comes to protecting young children, I simply cannot allow any of us to skirt around the issue.  I can’t imagine anyone who stands firmly behind the legacy of Jesus Christ to simply overlook the idea that an alleged man of god might be harming young children who’ve been wired to trust him.

While Bishop Jakes stops short of either endorsing or condemning Long, he certainly appears to be protecting him.  A pastor who also happens to be an expert at Church organizational structure commented to me that one of the great problems of the New Birth Missionary Baptist Church is that, for far too long, it was a shop that was run and controlled by Bishop Eddie Long.  Board members existed, but few would stand in defiance of a pastor who’d made his own name bigger than that of his church.  As a result, allowing this very serious sexual coercion issue to be handled by the board behind closed doors is like allowing an accused criminal to be judged by his own family.

I don’t trust that the board at New Birth has the ability to protect the children in that church, because I fully suspect that Bishop Long’s behavior was allowed to continue due to the negligence of silent enablers of his egregious activity.  I also interpret the remarks of T.D. Jakes and Creflo Dollar to be part of a concerted strategy to support their friend without running into criticism from their own congregations.  The reality, however, is that there are moments in our lives when we must ask ourselves the simple question, “What would Jesus do?”

Personally, I don’t believe Jesus would protect a man accused of sexually abusing children in the church, even if he lost his Rolls Royce in the process.  I encourage Jakes and Dollar to do the right thing and speak up on behalf of those poor boys who may have been perpetually damaged by the man they trusted with their lives.  These allegations, which are not being publicly refuted by Long, are simply unforgivable.

Dr. Boyce Watkins is a Professor at Syracuse University and founder of the Your Black World coalition.

 

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  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Olin-Ross/546574576 Olin Ross

    I know what I would do…I would walk out of that church……..I wouldn’t give a hook  what what the board decision would do………You don’t dwell in the din of the devil…..

  • Educating Young Men

    dear t.d. pimpin jakes,

    BULLSHIT.

    • Herbcaroll

      Glad to know that someone sees Jakes for what he is, someone who has the gift of gab and the theatrics to persuade others. Study the word for yourself, you too can understand GOD’s plan for your life. Only you and GOD know his plan for you NOT JAKES! I repeat NOT JAKES!

      • Educating Young Men

        Exactly, I have a relationship w/ God and NO pimp needs to be in that special bond between US!

      • Evern Williams

        Amen

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Olin-Ross/546574576 Olin Ross

    Do you think every ministers in the pulpit  are anointed….?????????Wolf in sheep wool…..The devil come with a bag full of deceptions…..

    • Evern Williams

      AMEN

  • GinaS

    It is so easy to SPECULATE and then JUDGE! We dont have the right to do so! But only true believers in GOD understand this! Its hard for an early mind to concieve this truth. I dont know wat happened I wasnt there! But I know I dont have the right to Judge Bishop or his parishoners. We really need to be concerned about getting and KEEPING our house in order. And if you think your house is already in order with no room for improvement, you got bigger issues then Bishop Long!

    • Fwedi

      GinaS – we do not have the right to condemn – but we sure do have the right to speak about right from wrong.  What Long did was wrong – very wrong – it would do him good to come clean and be honest – there is forgiveness from the Father – that is what i believe Long preached that very message from his pullpit.  He should practice what he preaches and let us hope that he has learnt that God’s love is endless.  You are so adamant that we should not judge – Long judged gay people for many years.  His wrong doing may just have come back to bite him and force him to swallow a good dose of humility.  God does not sleep – he is also amazingly forgiving and loving.  I hope that Long and all his comrades have learnt from this unfortunate incident.

    • Jaquinn16

      Amen to that. You must trust GOD in all things What would Jesus do Fogive, Cleanse and make whole.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_EGXZ26MK42CPGJ2FMIR3VXS4T4 flextime

        Prayer will not cleanse you. Believing in yourself and working through the pain will cleanse you.  Most rape and molestation victims turn away from the church because it didn’t protect them…..

        • Evern Williams

          AMEN

    • wilma

      Start getting your house4 in order by protecting your children.  Not ONCE did u even mention these young men and whether you were concerned about their welfare.  You dont have to “Judge” eddie long, but as a Christian you HAVE to speak truth to power.  Take your head out of the sand and see that the “Duck is a Duck.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_EGXZ26MK42CPGJ2FMIR3VXS4T4 flextime

      True believers in god know its not correct to RAPE LITTLE CHILDREN!

      • Evern Williams

        AMEN

    • Prayaboutit

      So, are you saying that, until ‘our own house is in order’ we should ignore what’s perhaps maybe going on next door.  The child that may be being sexually abused?  As there’s always improvement to be made, it’s a never ending task.  No family is ever ‘perfect.’   Even if it’s report your curiosity to an ‘agency’ if you suspect something; I could not live with myself if I suspected elsewise. 

      • Evern Williams

        AMEN

    • Ormash

      B.S.

    • LP

      True words spoken by a delusional sheep!

  • Higgspatricia

    Who ever wrote this article, is very well said, And I totally agree with you. I my self was waiting to hear what Bishop T.D. Jakes had to say about this matter two. The congregation and the elders of the has the power to believe that whats been done has been done. The Authority to dismiss a Pastor or Bishop from his wrong doing in the church. Its up to the people of the church.  The congregation don’t no this, this is why I share this to the churches of God. Some of these Bishop I have very little to say about them, Of what the spirit of God shows me of them.

    • Herbcaroll

      I think this church belongs to eddie long and he purposely designed it that way. However he is not as clever as he thinks, a good atty can get the books and financial holdings on the right track, or even demand monies be refunded to those who believe he has misrepresented the body of the church. Don’t just settle for those Amos and Andy style attys who support Long. Go to some of the universities and I assure u there are students there who will advise u of your rights as a paying memberof New Birth. Your money is speaking for Long, why shouldn’t it speak for you as well.

  • Herbcaroll

    Consider Jakes and Dollars reaction to this matter as an opportunity to peer into the very depth of their character. As I interpret this , GOD is calling them out and exposing them to the world for who they are and what they represent. They will openly rebuke parishoners who displease them but not their friend or should I say cohort. All eyes are on you two, so called men of GOD. Open rebuke is better than sacrafice.

    • Cookie58moore

      I agree.  I’d like to know why no one has offered prayer for these boys / men.  Which one of them will step up and out on their behalf………> I’m sure none.  I am convinced however, that this is not over……there will be more to this saga, and more exposures of our “Men of the Cloth”……..God, please help our children….

    • Evern Williams

      they want say anthing because they don’t want him to expose them

    • JC

      @Herbcaroll, I sooo agree with you. In others these men may be wolves in sheep clothing—-are these men truely men of God????  I think a grand idea or money called them not God.  I don’t think such men would be called to hurt God’s people, children,etc.   AND they seem to defend wickedness or wrong doing amoung them.

  • Superior

    ANY church that spews hate against black gay people is the real reason ARRICANS all over the world are messed up. Tracy Morgan (pappy of the year) talking about killing a gay kid is suicide talk, and we got enough ‘suicide by cop in our community, etc. Our people are distracted from the prize when we invest money and time in homophobia, another form of white supremacy.

    • wilma

      I am ready and willing to love ALL of GOD’s human creations, including people who are born gay, and to defend to the “N”th degree their right not to be abused and mistreated in ANY way.  HOWEVER, I do NOT believe that their preference for the same sex is intended even though I acknowledge it is innate.  Nature is not perfect and there are things that get screwed up in nature, from people born with more than two arms, a heart that is not fully developed, twins that do not separate. etc, etc.  I do not think this is any different.  Instead of trying to get people to believe this is just another alternative lifestyle, I’d rather understand why it happens and offer people the option to reverse whatever *genetic or hormonal, OR ???? was the cause.  Love them because their sexual orientation is only a small part of who they are and we are ALL  imperfect.  GOD doesn’t make people homosexual any more than he makes children come into this world psychotic – something in nature goes wrong in the development / wiring/  whatever un want to call it.    

  • Anonymous

    In a perfect world it would be great if Pastors from other megachurches would stand up and call out the misdeeds of other Pastors but this is real life. Whats left is that congregants of these churches read their Bible learn and understand God’s word so that if they come across evil they would know it and act accordingly. In these cases waiting for leadership to lead when they’re compromised is like waiting for rain in a desert

  • Jerry

    Much like the scandals of the Catholic church, the self proclaimed Bishops of these independant southern mega churchs are motivated to support each other in crisis.  If one of them is exposed for what they really are, it would shed a negative light on the rest.  I believe that Jakes’ support is not (primarily) motivated by “friendship” as much as self preservation.  There is a lot at stake for Jakes and Dollar if Eddie Long goes down in flames.  Damage by association.  But make no mistake — each of them will do whatever it takes to keep the cash flowing into their respective pockets and their support for Eddie will dissapear once it is clear that he cannot be “saved”.

    This is all about the business ….

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Shakka-Zulu/1379420279 Shakka Zulu

    Birds of a feather will always flock to each others defense and f**k up together…TD Snakes is only doing what is typical pimp daddy behavior, trying to smooth the ruffled feathers of the masses to keep the money flowing in one direction only, his…I could never overstand why black folks like being conned and feel they have to be led somewhere…If you want to be led, how about you doing the leading? We’re all responsible for our salvation as is stated in your bible, some high flying 10K dollar suit wearing pimp preacher will not be concerned about you’ll salvation, they will only be concerned about theirs on this so called judgement day…

  • LONG IS WRONG

    This a down right sad state of affairs. Both Creflo and Jakes know that Long is WRONG! They’re right about one thing, no one has the authority to condemn/judge Long; however, people definitely have a right to state their opinions and make observations about something that is absolutely WRONG! Church people always like to throw out the, “don’t judge others” when things that are going wrong are being spoken about. Not every statement made is about passing “judgement” on Mr. Long. Mr. Long committed a crime when the now men were YOUNG BOYS. It seems just about everybody else that’s not brainwashed by the “church” realizes it was WRONG!

    • Minnie Harreld

      Honestly I do not believe any of the accusation against Bishop Long and I do not know him because my grandson was set-up by the Sheriffs and informants to accuse him as a molester as a retaliatory punishement against me because he is my grandson.  I am considered a whistleblower advocating against inside corruption.  And to make sure I investigated and the informants  confessed it was meant  as a joke coersed by the sheriffs but he was processed by  a fake judge and sent to prison.  a $300,000 bail was   set expecting    me to  pay it but having experienced several other   retaliatory  crimes   I prayed for direction and  no way Further why  wait until they  became  grown.  This particular accusation is  questionable

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Rodney-Watchman-Foster/1582337200 Rodney Watchman Foster

    STOP !!! everyone is forgivable.  God do not have sin on a percentage basis.  Sin is sin no matter who its in.  Including you.  But the public outcry around this obvious and lued behavior is well noted and still being delt with.  I want us to be a public of justice and due process in love, not a vigilanty “lets go hang them” .  More over, our faith in God tells us all wiill be judged.  OK?  That whole matter has been settled. LEGALLY.  PUBLIC OPINION HAVE NOT. So there. He is alive and wounded. …. but lets not kick the can down the road. Because true healing could never begin. OK?  YOU may never have to  go through such a thing as these people but do expect that you will need someone praying with you when ever the adversity begins to show up to you.   Lets at least hear and follow instrction and ……. pray. For them and the leaders of our government……

    • Jerry

      as mentioned before .. praying is good but i would stop giving New Birth any more money until Eddie comes clean … reasonable?

  • Lgthomas7

    Listen to all mega pastors now they are covering this up and damage control is at work.

    I want to follow a pastor that speaks the truth not cover up!

    • Altha Cutright

      If you were walking in their shoes and had that BANK you will do the same thing they are doing lying.

    • Ormash

      Check out Pastor Ray Hagin or listen to wblr.com on your computer.

    • Mightyrod7

      @Lgthomas , Don’t follow any Man , Pastor or other-wise , study the WORD OF GOD for yourself & follow JESUS CHRIST the CREATOR !!!!!!!

      • Beverly Goodwin

        Jesus Christ is not the Creator.  Thus the birth of another lie.  Xtian and that bable teach that Jesus is the son of G’d, then all of a sudden he is god and the creator.

        The story that G’d walked on this earth as a man and was called Jesus, that’s bull.

        • Moto Moto

          Wow!  Ms. Goodwin you took it there, now that’s another topic all together.  You trying to give sight to the blind on that one.  More power to you.  Moto Moto…says “preach and teach”!

          • Beverly Goodwin

            Have you read any books by Hilton Hotema?

  • Altha Cutright

    Why ask T.D. Jake all of our so-call Bishops are in this sh## together. 

  • Firstfamilymanagmentllc Pr

    If you have learned anything from the teachings of our Lord an Saviour Jesus Christ he said if you have not Sinned cast the first stone… Don’t get me wrong what Long has done was Morally wrong an highly Offensive to the Congregation not only them but also Christians everywhere. But the laws are the Laws of the lord an it states who are you to Judge? Of you Judge then you should be prepared for you are to be Judged the same. So don’t het it twisted the media turns everything around but I have the same feelings as T.D. Jakes we should Pray for him an the Young men…. Every Man is held accountable for there Sin’s God knows who you are…

    • Jerry

       … praying is good and so is cutting off financial support for New Birth until Eddie Long tells his congregation the whole story – that is not judging, it is prudent behavior.

      • Emilee

        AAAAAAmin! Letz do it now!!!

    • JC

      BULL!!!!! This is how this mess & crap happens in the first place. Many folks are not questioned or  told  some of the things they are doing are wrong—-it is ignorned & prayed on,which does nothing.  For example,why didn’t people question youths going on trips without a few parents,the boys getting gifts or ask what happened on the trips,etc. We all judge,are judge & will be judge by our fellow humans and God for our choosen behavior. AND RIGHT IS RIGHT AND WRONG IS WRONG JUDGED OR NOT!!!!  And we must judge what is right/wrong or good/evil daily. GOD is thee judge of all things!!!!! How does one NOT befriend evil or wickedness if evil/wickedness is never JUDGED to be evil or wickedness?? Just like that crap said about sin is sin,bullcrap—–stealing a candy bar is not the same as killing someone. IF it is then many evil doers,pastors like Long,priests, thugs,rapists,etc. should be killed by regular decent law abiding folks—after all sin is sin and we are all sinners.

      • Mightyrod7

        You Are correct , but I haven’t heard ( read ) 1 person go to  the Word ????  2 Corinthians 6:17  ” Therefore come out from among them & be separate , saith The LORD& touch not the Unclean thing & I will receive you …  Leviticus 20:13 If a man also lie with mankind as he lieth with a woman , both of them have committed an abomniation !!!!!!   Wrong is wrong , & that’s not me ” Judgeing “ , that’s The Word of GOD !!!!!!! 

    • Beverly Goodwin

      Drop the New Testament and start following the laws in the Old Testament.  This is where the lies and confusion started.  In the xtian religion it is ok to sin after all the so-called blood of Jesus washes our sins away.

  • Anonymous

    Obviously people DON’T comprehend the bible, most of it’s meaning, and the context of which bible verses are used. Based on this FLAWED logic of “we are not to judge”, we are just supposed to stick our heads in the sand, act like nothing is happening, and continue to be blind. That is suppressing the truth and that is NOT what God wants us to do. 

    We ARE suppose to judge in some instances (and Eddie Long and his activity clearly falls under a time we are supposed to judge), rebuke, and correct sinners, and ESPECIALLY the mess that goes on in church. God says to be bold, not cowards and that’s exactly what a lot of folks in the church are doing in this case. 

    • Ormash

      I agree, Jesus had a problem with “church folk” and especially their leaders the pharisee and sadducees who thought they were holier than holy and beyond reproach. How do you spell hypocrite.

    • Ormash

      I agree, Jesus had a problem with “church folk” and especially their leaders the pharisee and sadducees who thought they were holier than holy and beyond reproach. How do you spell hypocrite.

    • Ormash

      I agree, Jesus had a problem with “church folk” and especially their leaders the pharisee and sadducees who thought they were holier than holy and beyond reproach. How do you spell hypocrite.

  • wilma

    Dr Boyce is right on about TD Jakes’ and creflo dollar;s comments about the so called Bishop Long.  Indeed, what would Jesus do?  That should not even be a question for us and if it is, you should join another faith.  It is so FUNDAMENTAL to EVERYTHING CHRIST stood for.  We should ALWAYS put the welfare of our children FIRST!!  So many of these mega churches put materialism on a pedestal along with the charismatic minister.  Eddie Long should be ashamed of himself along with anyone who defends him or cowardly says nothing in defense of these young men.  Thank you Dr Boyce for putting power to truth!!

  • http://www.perspectives-anotherwaytoview.blogspot.com Carolyn Moon

    I must say that I’m not surprised…disappointed by his remarks but not surprised!

  • Sareta Y.

    Being gay is a separate issue from being a child molester.  You refer to Long as a “gay child molester,” conflating the two.  I’m disappointed.  Had Long been accused of molesting girls, I doubt you would have referred to him as a “straight child molester.”  Is his sexual orientation an issue for you, Dr. Boyce?  Has it even been determined?

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_73CIKYA25XJQN4I3WN5CX6JTCU LEROY A

    I am sorry to say Dr. Boyce that I agree with you. I respect TD Jakes but when doing the right thing is hard it seems he has taken the easy road. No one is bigger than the church that they are the pastor. No church should stand for this, maybe this is why we black people are losing our blessings.

  • Wes

    Whether it is a pastor, preacher, politician, teacher, bishop, pope, lap dancer, whatever the chosen profession, it is out of taste, disrespectful, and downright judgmental to criticize your peer, for in the eyes of the public, your peer is your equal. It is not the place of anyone in the same line of work to judge another. Looking up to another peer for validation of one’s opinion is tantamount to saying….”I feel this way about this….but if I hear it from Bishop T. D. Jakes, then that will settle it for me.”, that’s a problem. Why? Because you’re not convicted of your own opinion. Why should you care what anyone else “says” about the issue? My humble opinion…

    • Mzzmo

      are you on crack or something? who told you that it was inappropriate or disrespectful for one to criticize someone in the same profession? wrong is wrong. that’s what jakes et al want you to think. i’m sorry to break it to you: you’ve been feeding at the trough of bs too, too long. these guys are masters of obfuscation and mendacity. these men are nothing but pimps. and from what i’ve read about these pimps, they all seem to be blaming the victims and not their compadre. typical. ugh!

  • Firstladbrett1953

    And you wonder why I WILL NEVER GIVE ANY OF THOSE THIEVING,LIBIDINOUS SWINE ONE RED CENT???

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_EGXZ26MK42CPGJ2FMIR3VXS4T4 flextime

    Let me tell you something…. 

    Prayer has not washed my body clean of the filthy action that my step father did to me with my mother’s full knowledge.  Prayer did not stop the flash backs and the mental abuse that was perpetrated on me by my mother.  You can keep your prayer while you still have a multi million dollar church. We as the public have a right to degrade this filthy man for his actions.  Every day you hear about perverted sexual acts being done to 11 year old little girls and boys and you tell us to just pray?  Why it has it become so social able acceptable to rape our precious youth and not have repercussions?  Why is it acceptable to blame little children for making a man rape them?  When there were fathers in the home you didn’t hear about their children being raped by strangers and relatives.  

    • Evern Williams

      @ flextime i went through similar my uncle molested me.. my mother and father did not want me so i was given to my fathers evil sister. i am not in a church now still struggling @ age 60

      • Frank

        Evern Williams, I sympathize with you having to endure such horror and being discard by those that were supposed to love and protect you.
        My profound wishes for your full emotional recovery. I wish I could be of some assistance to you.

      • http://profiles.yahoo.com/u/KU6P4XPUIDTGSV52Z3QFCXNFPU Claudia

        I also has been a victim of child molestation at the age of 8 years old by a man whom my family trusted to leave me with as my baby sitter. Today I am 58 years old ,and every so often I think back on those days. they arent easily forgotten, but when finding God and accepting Jesus as my Lord and Savior years ago, God has given me peace of mind of all the terrible things I endured in life. With the prayer and seeking Gods peace you will be able to overcome and move on but will never forget those evil days. I sometimes today havent been able to shake the molestation scenes in my mind and that has caused me to be very protective of young children including my very own. God in the bible has never had tolerance for such behavior among the saints. Jesus honored little children daily and told them to suffer little children to come unto him. I know that today God is the same and never changes. During biblical times God destroyed men who had disorderly conduct even when it was against one and another. Today we are mostly forgiven for our trespasses but still theres always a price to pay. Bishop Eddie Long do need pray, we need to pray that God will touch his heart and conscious in bring him before the alter in confession no matter what he may loose in the process. Hopefully hes not reprobated in his mind yet and he still has some conscious of what he may have done. To me if he does confesses he should immediately be removed from the alter from preaching. He has fallen from Grace!.  The most miserable life to live is when confessing to be Godly and living differently.

    • Evern Williams

      @ flextime i went through similar my uncle molested me.. my mother and father did not want me so i was given to my fathers evil sister. i am not in a church now still struggling @ age 60

    • BELOVEDBG

       ********EDDIE LONG NEEDS MORE THEN PRAYER, ***************************
      Abnormal, aberrant, and deviant behavior should never be allowed or sweep under the carpet just because you have been called by GOD.  I just think its time out for all that type of foolishness. “I do not and probably never will understand how (MEN????) of GOD.  Who fellowship together, who are on councils together, who pray for each other, for strength and guidance from GOD. Can not speak up when the leader of any church is so far out in left field( wrong is wrong  & sin is sin )  And yes the final judgement belongs to GOD.  But the whole church (ie. New Birth), his fellow bishops, and peers need to make him sit down somewhere and repent this mess. I am so tired of these mealy mouth preachers, bishops, etc.  getting caught up in the (Babylon)world, but I believe if they relied on their true strength, Jehovah there would be less of these issues and they need to be on their real jobs, you know the one that our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ die on the cross for that we might all be set free. Preach the GOSPEL, THE LIVING WORD, LEAD PEOPLE TO GOD,  SAVE PEOPLE FOR GOD, TEACH PEOPLE OF GOD, UNTIL THEY LOVE GOD SO STRONGLY ,THAT WE ARE ONE WITH GOD.  BECAUSE WHATEVER WE GOT GOING ON NOW WITH THE CHURCHES TODAY AND ALL THE SCANDALS SURROUNDING THEM HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH ADVANCING THE KINGDOM OF GOD.”

    • Moto Moto

      I agree with you ‘Flextime’ a 100%.  These pulpit manipulators always result to that “Lets pray” routine. But let me remind them where Jesus says, “Watch as well as pray”.  

      Child predators need to be seek out and destroyed before another innocent life is twisted and destroyed for some ‘animal’ lusting children.  Am quick to remind these million dollar preachers to Jesus reference of any person ‘thinking’ of harming the little children.  He said they (child predators and murders) should tie a heavy rock around it’s neck and jump in the river to drown. 

      So TD Jakes shut your luke warm ass up because there is plenty that can be done, and is being done to alert society to these animals like BISHOP EDDIE LONG!  And take that from an active 12 year law enforcement veteran.  Peace. 

  • Jbenning

    Birds of a feather stick TOGETHER

  • Student

    AMEN TO THIS ARTICLE….AMEN…

  • Anonymous

    Dr Boyce,
    They will not do the right thing because the love of money is the root of all evil so much so to the pooint where they cannot differentiate the difference between having money and loving it above what is right!

  • Elandry777

    Birds of a feather, flock together.  Maybe he’ll be exposed next!

    • Evern Williams

      Amen

  • Arneader

    What issue was this comment included?  The comment written by Jakes was cited when it FIRST happened.  I haven’t heard any comments from Jakes since the incident….and I have met Jakes.

  • Ormash

    Did you expect anything different from T.D. or Cref- low?  If you study the history of christianity you will find that sort behavior very common, from days of old right up to Eddie.
     
      Mean while the preachers escape through the back door using Jesus, forgiveness and washed in the blood to cover their backside. And the beat goes on.

  • Im back

    So what happen to Jesus’s teenage years?He’s a boy at 12 then reappears at 30…what happened to his teenage years?Reason why I think the bible is false since it’s suppose to be a biography of Jesus the son of God.

  • Celia785

    Actually to me he (Jakes) said it best. It is his (Long) church. It definitely is not the church Christ built.

  • Lbamm

    I can outright guarantee you that if either of these charlatans had caught someone on their staff stealing 25 million dollars from the church they would not just pray for them and keep it all quiet. First that individual would be vilified by both of these guys. Then the poor sucker would be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. The congregation would be ready to lynch them. The preacher is just a man. Treat him like all the rest of us would be treated in the same situation. OUT WITH IT LONG!! SPEAK UP like a man!

  • Lbamm

    I can outright guarantee you that if either of these charlatans had caught someone on their staff stealing 25 million dollars from the church they would not just pray for them and keep it all quiet. First that individual would be vilified by both of these guys. Then the poor sucker would be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. The congregation would be ready to lynch them. The preacher is just a man. Treat him like all the rest of us would be treated in the same situation. OUT WITH IT LONG!! SPEAK UP like a man!

  • massai

    what a f’n coward. This pig defended BUSH in Katrina the same way. To hell w/ the emotional PimP T.D. Fakes.

  • Jferrich Oba

    How sad, that Jakes can not speak to what is right. But then, the gospel that he preaches is off, so it’s no wonder that he would or could not speak truth concerning Eddie Long. Jakes and Dollar along with E. Long preach another jesus other than the Jesus of the Scriptures. As these men speak up for one another from their friendship level, they are not speaking about what Jesus would do. Jesus teaches that what E. Long did was very wrong and ungodly in nature. These men can only speak what is in their vested interest,they use bible cliques such as “just pray”. Our praying for E.Long is not going to help him, he first has to repent or admit he wronged those young boys. These kind of men hide behind the name of God to commit these unseemly acts and then ask for prayer; prayer does not work that way, and they are not Men of God, they are men who profess to be godly. Their god(Satan) is the god of this world. As concerning people not judging one another, our very conduct judges us. Perfection is not in us, even as some strive for it, but!, there are lines in our lives and endeavor that we don’t cross. We hold certain people in high esteem and think the wrong they commit is someone els’s fault. Wrong is wrong, the scripture tells us that no man should think more highly of himself then he ought; as well as have no respect of person. Esteem everyone the same. We as Black People have put these so-called men of God (Preachers, Pastors,Bishops,etc) high up on pastels, that even God can’t reach them. So we think they are hearing from God and we wait to hear from them what thus says the Lord. Please wake up people, God can talk to us without them, we are in direct contact with God thru His Spirit. Please wake up Church or unchurched people. Please remember that building that you attend is not the Church, it’s just a building. If you are in Christ, you are the Church!!                    

     

    • Renee

      AMEN. I totally agree with you Jferrich Oba. We must understand and recognize that they are mortal men. They are flesh and we all know the flesh is weak, BUT the Spirit is strong. The only perfect man to ever walk this earth was Jesus Christ. We are to be held accountable for all that we do, good or bad. Trust me on judgement day God will re-play our lives moment by moment and hold us in account for the good and the bad. I myself have witnessed in the church how some people put the pastor on a pedestal. In His Holy Word God has said not to have any other gods before Him, and when these foolish people place such high regard on these men, they are in effect placing them as gods. I believe that when one is called into ministry, they have a duty to not only deliver the true word of God, but to also live their lives according to the Word of God. 

  • Lola-511

    I just lost my respect for this man…what about the victims? The Black church has long hidden the facts about their ministers, deacons and choir directors-many people knew about them and covered it up or looked the other way as long as it wasn’t their daughters being impregnated or their sons being molested and assaulted by these people! Yes we should all pray-but these comments by T.D Jakes were expected actually- we should all pray that we can find a church home without this type of nonsense, and pray to protect those children who are in danger of being hurt in a place where they are supposed to feel safe and protected. Remember all those rumors about James Cleveland-maybe they weren’t rumors after all!

  • Jerry

    One of the problems as I see it is that neither Long, Jakes or Dollar are being held accountable.  They have intentionally structured it this way.  There is no oversight to their cash generating businesses (mega churches).  They each control their BOD by making sure that they are staffed by folks they control.  Of course they support each other lest they draw attention to themselves.
     
    The only real recourse that the congregation has is to walk —– but if you do walk go far enough away – go find a small church led by a pastor who puts more priority on helping people then obtaining personal wealth and fame.

  • SapphiresMomma

    JAKES and EDDIE LONGSTROKE are one of the same.

    They row in the same boat, except that Jakes has not been caught with young boys!

    All of these DL preachers need to step down!

  • Im back

    Can someone tell me what happened to Jesus’s teenage years?In the bible he goes from 12 years old to 30.What happened to his teenage years?

  • Im back

    Can someone tell me what happened to Jesus’s teenage years?In the bible he goes from 12 years old to 30.What happened to his teenage years?

  • SojournersTruth

    “But whoever causes one of these little ones who believe in Me TO STUMBLE, it would be better for him if a millstone were hung around his neck, and he were thrown into the sea.” (Mark 9:42)

    We don’t have to judge, God has said it quite plain.  I never thought many of these greedy preachers ever thought of or believed in the concept of going to Heaven, they just pretend and their weak sheep enjoy the histronics displayed on Sunday mornings.  It has become the biggest con going.  Why do you think we have so many recycled pimps and felons turn preacher? 

    Personally, I wouldn’t follow those Easter egg colored zoot suit wearing fools around a corner.  Our dependence on others to save us is a continuation of our waiting to be saved on the plantation.  Always looking for someone else to do the heavy lifting.  What a pathetic bunch!

    Many of these degenerates siding with eddie long are really hiding with him – they would have to face up to their own sick actions that haven’t been brought to the light yet.

  • telijah

    Contrary to what so many have expressed here, prayer does change things. I am living proof of that. Perhaps what Jakes meant was that at this point all we can do is pray. The settlement has been made and prosecution will not happen. He needs to repent of his sins and needs help. The young men need help as well.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1404114730 Gloria March

    But it sounds like this article is saying that Bishop Eddie Long is guilty but how do we know that? There was no trial or anything to prove that. What if these guys are liars. I mean I’m a woman and I love the Lord but I don’t want to stand in judgement without proof. I feel sorry for all that’s involved but sometimes we are our own worse enemies. Now why Bishop Long put himself in the position he did I don’t know but we should pray for him. I’m a straight woman and wouldn’t live any other way but my God we must look at the way this was presented and demand proof. Before we condemn this pastor.

    • Im back

      He settled out of COURT,while also putting a GAG ORDER on them from EVER doing interviews.What more do u want? Don’t be so blinded by “faith” that u can’t see common sense!

      • Lbamm

        YEAH that plus the 25 million dollars he paid. The financial forensic guys rarely get that wrong. You don’t put out that kind of money to shut people up unless something was wrong. When the woman tried that on Bill Cosby he said the truth will hurt a lot less than you harassing me for life. He told the truth. That is all people are asking of this guy. If it ain’t coming his people should be leaving.

  • Im back

    just as long as im not the only 1 who doesn’t know wtf happened to jesus’s child hood im happy.

  • Nathaniel Newsome Sr

    Trust this that because we didn’t get the blow by blow account we wanted, it will not matter what he does it will not satisfy,we want to know not to restore a brother its gossip  and its someone else.Nothing else done will silence the critic.Only time will tell the full story. 

  • Tifa

    It wouldn’t necessarily have to take a friend of Long’s to take such position butone who knows his role as a Pastor as well as a Christian. It is clearly that the author here does not know the call on a Christians life. The article was ended with the word unforgiveable. Well, that simply isn’t the position God called for us to have. In addiiton, the bible says that if any man be overtaken in a fault, we have spiritual duties to the other to help restore him. Galatian 6:1  He never said forgiveness would be a walk in the park, but he does not want us to condemn one another point blank.  Being spiritual leaders, i am sure both men are wise enough to acknowledge that friend or no friend og Long’s.

    Galatians 6:1

  • Tifa

    He is naturally subject to however the law deals with him and automatically subject to however God chooses to deal with him. Individually, I agree with Jakes that we have no authority. So what is there for us to say against him? We are all vulnerable to be overtaken by sin. -Talking about it  and collecting  opinions about another is simply not necessary in the spiritual realm of things.

  • Psalmist88

    Very interesting article, yet I don’t think we have quite gotten to the heart of the matter where the body of believers are concerned. I, myself, am not a member of any Megachurch but, I think we all can see that there is no hurt like church hurt.From some of the comments I have read seems like even the words (or lack of words) offered by those we “see” as leaders are slicing some of us to the very core. Now yes, we are not in the bible days as we know it anymore but, God’s word is unchanging. Too long in the black community and in society in general have we gravitated toward personalities instead of personally excepting ourselves. If we can not validate ourselves or have someone else validate us, then we feel that we have a right to validate others to make ourselves seem more than we are. Our minds are where we are constantly at war with the wrong that is around us. Even on this forum we are waging war with one another because someone doesn’t see things from our perspective. Well truth be told ladies and gentlemen some of our perspectives in general are out of whack until we start talking about someone that someone else agrees with. Whatever that has happened the Lord with bring to light. He doesn’t need our help until less he requires it. The decisions we make are on us. Now as a leader, Bishop Long is held to a higher standard and has many sheep he is ultimately responsible for. Their blood is on his hands not ours and my public opinion on his problems will not be counted toward whether I see Jesus face to face. If you are going to pray for everyone involved and for God’s will to be done, then do that. If not, then as Jesus told Judas Do what you must. Earnest prayer is needed to break any addictions, strongholds, etc…in this situation. We do not encourage wrongdoing on any level but when we are called to pray, lets do that and let nothing else leave our lips.

    • Lbamm

      We may agree to disagree, but if Long were held to a higher standard he would not have paid 25 million in hush money. The next time you are in a car accident, house broken in to, or have any other crime committed against you lets see you live by those words and just walk away. There was a crime committed. We hold ALL criminals to the same standard. We dragged the Catholic priests through the mud, not because they were held to a higher standard but because they committed a crime. All prayer requires some action on our part. If you pray for a job you better fill out an application.

  • Nita

    Bishop Jakes is completely correct.  Eddie Long control that church, he no longer has a board, nor does he answer to any other church elder since he has none over him.  The only thing you can do is pray that God convicts his heart to do the right thing.  Since he felt no remorse about molesting those boys though, I doubt that he will step down so it will take his members walking away to get his attention.  The article would be more enlightening if the writer would consider keeping their personal biases out of it. Jakes is no long, or Dollar. he is an honorable man who made it based on his faith in God, and his books and movies. Unlike th rest of these so called leaders who live off the saints donations.  I would say seek God for yourself, but its clear based on many of the comments this isn’t about Godly men, but a resentment of th idea of God.

  • Sharrockkenneth

    Just what in the world is wrong with this brother, so call man of God to say there is nothing we can do about this So call man of God….(Long or Jakes)  Lets just call these two Dollor Bill……Feel Me Dollor Bill Brothers…  Just Ask Mr. Jakes this one Big Question…..   If it were your sons, yes Mr Jakes Yours son’s that Mr. long got to, just how would you feel Mr. Dollar bill Mega Church so call Man of God, oh and by the way God is gone Hold all you so call Dollar bill Pastors Accountable….. All your Money will not save not one of You in god day, and you can take that to the Bank Mr T.D. Joke, thats right Joker….

  • Ghost

    People let just make one thing clear about Dollor bill Jakes, He did not spoke out about the wrong doing that Dollar bill Eddie Long did, did you notice that he would not say its wrong to pay off those young men, just think bout this People Dollar bill Eddie Long said he would fright to the very end to clear his name, Fright to the very end People, what did he do Pay Off, Pay Off…..  Mr. Dollar Bill Jakes this is black and white, just make me wonder about You Mr. td Jakes……….People just watch Your Little Boys….. For Sure…..

  • Ruby Lasalle

    In the midst of this all, God is moving upon the hearts of those that really are seeking His face and His will for their lives.  The Holy Spirit is revealing  those things that simply can’t be of God, i.e. sexual molestation of the vulnerable and covering the unrepentant offender. .  I am grateful to know that my God is still in control and working things for the good of those that have surrendered themselves to Him.   

  • Emilee

    is he (Jakes) a damn fool with his lisping, puffed-up azz!
    These barbaric, prehistoric, criminal animals (Long, Do$$ar, Jakes, et al)
    leading ‘the church,’ supposedly in the ‘way of Christ’ have brainwashed and manipulated the crap outta y’all…sooooo saaaad.
    BLACK FOLK: WAKE THE HELL UP!
    Why are you continuing to follow and listen to these boy-child rapists?
    GEEEZ, get a grip on your life and the choices you make!

  • Mahogany_12002

    I am so pleased to hear you state the facts. It seems like a code of silence to me just like the Police. If that is the stance these pastors are taking I no longer have the respect for them as men of God as initially was given. If they are going to continue to cover up and hide these abominations against our children, then they are NO better than the transgressor. Shouldn’t be allowed to preach to people about God, cus I too don’t believe that God would condone that kind of behaviour while you preach about God’s love. Where was your love for God while you were boning or fondling or touching these children you sleezy son of a Beatch!!   Praise God it wasn’t my child..THe doors would have been wide open with or without the settlement. I would certainly have let the world know the details of his transgressions and how low life he is and how he shouldn’t be wearing a collar as a protection. GOD DON’T LIKE UGLY.  What goes around comes around and these Pastors that cover for the skank, aren’t any better. All of this mess is in the Bible and these men of the cloth are in it also. False prophets!!

  • Just Sayin

    Your comments in your closing are clearly contradictory.  You ask “what would Jesus do?” and then you say that the allegations against Bishop Long are unforgiveable.  On the contrary as heinous as the allegations are, Jesus expects us to forgive our brothers if they succumb to sin.  If a brother be overtaken in a fault we are to restore him.  However, with every action there are consequences.  And needless to say, there could be a bumpy road ahead.  When we sin, we must repent. 

    If I were in a similar situation and I committed such deeds, I would personally step down and ‘do my first work over.”  I would repent from my heart, knowing and trusting that God would forgive me and throw my sins into a sea of forgetfulness.  People engaging in such activity are in serious need of help.  Condemnation is easy, loving and forgiving is a little more difficult for some.  There appears to be a deeper problem here and only God can deliver from what could seemingly be an awful addiction.
     
    Whatever the local body decides concerning the pastor’s fate, the individual must still deal with God’s judgment.  

    Let he who is without sin, cast the first stone.

  • Im back

    just as long as im not the only 1 who doesn’t know wtf happened to jesus’s child hood im happy.

  • Bishop Xavier T. Carter

    I am Bishop Xavier T. Carter, formerly of Los Angeles CA, now a resident of Birmingham, AL.   I generally shy away from public comments outside of the walls of our congregation where I know that the members have been taught with biblical precision and the power of the Holy Spirit.   In this case I’m going to take a quantum leap and side with Bishop T. D.

    He is correct: we don’t have the biblical authority to do much of anything else but pray for our brother-in-struggle. 

    Specifically, there is an often-quoted verse of scripture in the Old Testament which deserves the serious contemplation of those who think otherwise.  It’s found in 2 Chronicles 7:14.   There are four steps on the road to repentance which must be taken by every believer who seeks to engage in True Repentance for the sake of forgiveness.  In that verse there is a word that’s generally overlooked when moving from the “a” portion to the “b” portion.  That word is “THEN.”  It is positioned there as a powerful contengency. 

    The voice of God is heard saying, ”Do these four things “THEN” will I hear from heaven and forgive their sin and heal their lands.” 

     That is my opinion and it’s not open to argument.   Not that I have arrived, but it would take me no less than six weeks to teach the context that leads up to and validates the content of my conclusion, to make certain that my hearers, any potential discussants and I are on the same page in the same book at the same time. 

    In addition, I believe I am on safe ground when I say that many, if not most people–who call themselves Christians–have not accurately made the first step. 

    Before anyone clouds up and rains all over me, let it be known that I subscribe to the theory that everybody has an “OPINION” and opinions are never open to argument–although scholars do enjoy a healthy scholarly debate. 

    Xavier T. Carter Ed. D.

    • Lbamm

      This discussion is not about biblical authority. This discussion is about -we those who have sinned, committed crimes, made mistakes and then openly and honestly repented for those sins, paid the price for those crimes, lost our jobs for those mistakes compared to a MAN who has placed himself above those basic requirements and another who is his close friend compelling us to keep it hidden in the walls of the church. I was having great difficulty at work, so I went to my boss and told him that I needed help. I told him that I was an alcoholic. I prayed, my friends and co-workers prayed and then I went to 30 days of rehab. The FIRST thing I did was confess my mistakes. The second thing I did was pay the price for those mistakes (financially, promotional, emotional, and family). Now we are given the example from a leader  and all of his cohorts that this is no longer required. Hide it. Sneak around the back and pay it off. This discussion is about MEN whose example we should not follow.

    • LP

      Again, we have the authority to question ANYONE.  Don’t let these street preachers convince you otherwise. 

  • Whappenin

    The whole Eddie Long scandal is sick in my opinion and I too wonder why is he still on the pulpit and why is the church still backing him, etc, and as a mother I agree we need to make a stand to protect them.  But as a christian I will not lower myself to begin judging Eddie Long, that is God’s place, so I agree with Bishop TD Jakes, if you can’t do anything else just pray, who you choose to pray for is up to you (Long or the young men or the people still in the church, etc…), but it’s in Gods hand, He will deal with it justly. 

    Bishop Jakes and Dollar are men just like Long and every other man, they are not GOD, so why look to them for help, look to God, that’s the churches problem today, they forget God is bigger than the person on the pulpit, but because that is who the see, they stop there.  Yes as leaders we expect more of them and should hold them to do more, but at the end of the day, we cannot expect then to do what we would do, they can only do them.

    God does not operate on mans level so who are we to say what He will and won’t do… He is not a respecter of person, but He is just.

  • Aaron

    I HAVE ONE QUESTION FOR T. D. JAKES! WITH ALL OF YOUR WEALTH AND INFLUENCE, HOW MANY OF YOUR PARISHONERS HAVE YOU ACTUALLY CONTRIBUTED YOUR TAX FREE MONIES TO STOP FORCLOSURES AND THE LOSS OF THEIR HOMES OR PUT FOOD ON THEIR TABLES AFTER JOB LOSS?YOUR PARISHIONERS SUPPORT YOUR LIFESTYLE OF THE RICH AND FAMOUS, ISN’T IT PROPER TO SHARE WITH YOUR FLOCK, JESUS DID WITH BREAD AND FISH, WHAT’S YOUR EXCUSE? YOU WON’T RESPOND TO THIS!!aND OH, “FLEXTIME” I AGREE WITH YOU BUT ALL OF THESE SO-CALLED MINISTERS UP HOLD EACH OTHER, BIRDS OF THE FEATHER FLOCK TOGETHER, WHETHER IT’S MALES OR FEMALES.

  • Jakada

    Black folk, and  African folk “love lies”"

    From the time our former masters gave us The “Good” book, until now. We love lies. What is the lie, embracing a faith and a religion, as well as a belief system bestowed upon us by our former physical and now mental “Masters”. Who in there right mind would embrace such a thing. “Who”, a people who have totally lost there way. The future will not be kind to us for the continual spreading of this dangerous mind altering drug, called religion. Those who profess to be “preachers” when we need exceptional “Teachers” will always embrace and love lies. We are the only people on planet earth who are lead by “religious” folk, what a shame. When have you seen or heard about any powerful people being lead only by it’s “religious” class. No offense to anyone, just my observation. In the words of Stevie Wonder: When you believe in things that you don’t understand you will suffer, superstition is not the way.
    On the move………

    Jakada Zo, The Transient Foreigner.

  • Im back

    just as long as im not the only 1 who doesn’t know wtf happened to jesus’s child hood im happy.

  • Moto Moto

    Check it both millionaire pastors are 700 Club TV network members.  I expect them to protect each other.

  • Reneebrown1

    Just to reiterate what has already been echoed here.  Jakes and Dollar are not responding to Longs charges as men talking by the spirit, but as men talking from their flesh.  The bible clearly speaks to this kind of thing.  The bible tell us in 1 Timothy 3:1-7 what how to determine whether the overseers and deacons of the church are trustworthy.  Moreover, in 1 Timothy 5:17-19 the bible tells us that those who direct the affairs of the church are worthy of double honor.  Therefore, we should not entertain allegations against them unless there are two or three witness to corroborate the accusations. Then those elders should have their sins publicly rebuked, so that others may take warning. 
    For Jakes, Dollar and anyone else to argue that the only thing to do regarding Long’s sinful behavior is simply pray – this is absolutely not true and inconsistent with the word of God.  Therefore, it is reasonable for me and anyone else to perceive these men with skepticism and not take them to be real teachers and preachers of God.

    • FA

      Wow, what an incorrect interpretation!  Grooming young boys just to later lead them into a homosexual relationship out of misplaced gratitude is NOT TENDING TO THE AFFAIRS OF THE CHURCH.  It’s tending to your own affairs at the EXPENSE of the church.

      Jesus NEVER let church leaders off the hook for wickedness.  You really need to read the whole new testament all over again.

      • FA

        @Rennebrown1  – sorry that response was for another post, not yours.

  • Lakergyrl73

    Truly it’s a sad day when the church turns a blind eye to sin. Regardless of WHO commits it, it needs to be treated as such. The church has become so much like the world in the name of ‘tolerance’ that it’s sad. How about the truth! Stop counting membership & work on soul saving & being fishers of men! Didn’t the Jim Jones Kool-Aid scandal teach us anything? I am so glad that Bishop Morton was godly enough to address Mr. Long the way he did. By using God’s Word to backup what he was doing as his duty as a Christian man not just one called to preach the Word of God. To me, Dollar & Jakes are acting like those hyprocrites who ready to stone the woman caught in the act of adultery until Jesus started writing in the sand. If they don’t stir the pot perhaps their own stench won’t rise up. Not saying that’s the case, just illustrating what their behavior is likened to. Why do they not see how bad this makes Christians look to an unbeliever? If everyone is so accepting of reprehensible behavior, then why would anyone chose to come to Christ when they can keep living their lives in sin w/out being a hyprocrite?

  • TriciaR419

    Operative word “accused.”

    • BELOVEDBG

      Where ever there is smoke, something is burning!!!! If the accusation is just that why was Eddie (wrong) Long in court behind closed doors and paying off the abused young men in question???? Please ….. a true man of God caught up in his sin, in love with GOD  not himself or the reprecussions of this world.  Would have repented before God and his congregation, and removed his own self from the pulpit and started seeking the help he needs to get through this and come out of the trial as pure gold…… but no, we have the entire world asking the question is that what the christian leaders do when clergy is accused of abuse regard the youth…… Another sorry excuse of the shepherd’s misuse of the flock…

  • http://www.facebook.com/unclekipper Kipper Jones

    I love Bishop Jakes! Now with that said, his remarks are total non-sense! I don’t even want to say what he makes me believe about him! Bishop Paul Morton, who has been ‘fire tested’, has given the most responsible response to this situation:
    http://yourblackworld.com/2011/06/23/bishop-paul-morton-calls-on-eddie-long-to-repent/

    That “just pray” thing doesn’t work for me while we have kids running around here subject to their authority!

  • http://twitter.com/deedeerussell Dee Dee Russell

    The Black Church is FULL of perverts and freaky daddies. I call  (most) Black Churches “Match.com for freaks”.  FINALLY a BM telling it like it IS.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_OIOM26NGCZIDXRZYUXHY5YFDRA Dave

    Yes, let’s pray that all these folks stop trying to sweep everything under the rug and actually talk about what’s going on!

  • Chocolatepoundcake

    Who deserves our prayers are the young men who have to suffer the consequences of this man’s vile acts!!!  What bishop long deserves is swift kick in his *** on his way to prison!!!  We as the black community have a way of sweeping things under the rug instead of cleaning it up and dumping the trash where it belongs!!!  Where I live I know of many incidences of this nature but no one wants to confront these issues or even the people who are at fault!!! Unfortunately it has mostly taken place in the religious community (church)!!!   It is this type of thinking (rather protecting of one another) that keeps me from committing to any church.  I truly hate to feel this way but real is REAL!!! 

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_OIOM26NGCZIDXRZYUXHY5YFDRA Dave

      AMEN!!! Being silent is KILLING our youth FAST!

  • Redsand1989

    The BIBLE tells us how to take care of situations like this, GOD knew that things like this would happen,  and that is why he left instructions.  If we’d obey what GOD said,  we would not be blogging about this now.  Believing that he should be removed,  is not judging. When “common folk” commit crimes,  we go to jail.  When common folk don’t do out jobs,  we get fired, right?  His family and the Church family need time to heal,  or does anybody care that the BODY(people) of CHRIST has been affected?  People are hurt and confused .  This situation is the very reason why the BLACK CHURCH is talked about like it is the biggest SCAM on the planet!  We need to stop looking at Ministers like GODS and lifting them up as if they can do no wrong.  Do we really believe in GOD? Do we read our BIBLES any more, or just listen to what the ” Man of God has to say about it”?

  • Appalled

    Wow I am shocked by these comments! We as Christians need to pray. Bishop Jakes is not agreeing nor defending what happened, he is simply just saying everyone involved could use a little prayer! This is what is wrong with Christianity. So many people are quick to be extreme and point the finger. So many people quick to take sides and condem. Stop all of that, pray for the situation (whether good or bad) then move on, because at the end of the day, it is not you in that hot seat (guilty or not guilty). Geez…people have no type of spirituality these days, and then are so quick to throw a bible verse at a situation. Sit down and understand that life is life and people have the right (the God given right) of free will to make their own choices. We have all done something wrong in our lives and when we did, I’m sure I’m not the only one who just wanted to be prayed for. Despite my own personal opinion of Bishop Long and his church, I will say that the only thing we CAN do instead of judge is pray for the man, the church, the boys and the family that was involved…This is really a sad day for me as a 20 year old woman. Other religions stick together and we eat each other alive spiritually. I love God but often struggle with not Christianity (the Religion) but the people that call themselves Christians. 

    • Captainagg

      @Apalled:disqus , You have every right to be appalled, but it is directed at the wrong matter of this issue. You stated that you are 20 yrs. old, which your post exemplifies, because only a babe in Christ would respond with such emotions. Did ye not know that we would judge angels (I Corinthians 6:3)? To clarify this further just observe how Eddie Long has been judging and condemning the sin of homosexuality. Where was your scrutinizing of him for doing so? Yet, you allow your emotional feelings to defend his part in coercing young kids to perform and satisfy his lust. No, I do not judge the man, but as many others I judge his speech and actions, which clearly depict not being of our heavenly Father and our Lord Jesus Christ. Check out the Apostle Paul, did he not chastise Peter for being a hypocrite?
      Therefore, take heed to your own fleshy emotional deeds, because many of these false teachers prey on this weakness of women, and it is evident when you defend without biblical facts.

  • Miss Red

    I have seen people criticize the Bishops, the church, Jesus, prayer, and everything else. WHERE WERE THESE MEN’S PARENTS?! The problem is the same with the Catholic priests, Michael Jackson, school teachers, aunts, uncles, and family members…are parents totally involved with their children, where they are and who they are with?! I’m not saying that molestation can be stopped, but it can be allowed NOT to continue. Just because it’s church/school/a celebrities house/etc, doesn’t mean that you can just drop your child off. Get involved. Ask questions. Know your child’s personality. Talk to your children. Know when their bodies have changed or behavior. Have open communication with them so they can tell you anything. Children are too valuable of a gift to just leave with anyone. When I was molested, I told my mom and it never happened again. I wasn’t afraid to tell her anything because she let me know to tell on ANYONE no matter what. Only God knows what REALLY happened in this case. A think about this: If someone molested me, no amount of money could make me settle because I would want him locked up!! So before taking issue and coming to conclusions based on whatever hangups you have with church, look at the WHOLE STORY. No one knows what really happened except Long, those men, and God. Ultimately, God will take care of everything better than anyone of us could. SN: Legally Bishop Jakes and Dr. Dollar cannot say anything unless Long is CHARGED. I think if he was charged, you’d hear something different from them. ALSO: prayer does work…for those who believe. Read the Word and know it for yourself (in context). Find a church and get involved. All churches don’t have these issues. If you’ve been abused and cannot get over it, God is an awesome counselor and healer. He also works through people counselors, so get help! (it’s never too late) And watch out for your children because the devil comes to steal, kill, and destroy and he can be found anywhere, at church, work, or home. Be blessed and be careful.