Was Judge Mathis Too Harsh on the Deadbeat Dad? Probably Not

by Dr. Boyce Watkins, Your Black World.

Many of you saw the episode in which Judge Greg Mathis publicly undressed a deadbeat dad in the courtroom.  The man was a rapper called “The Gingerbread Man,” whose rap lyrics say, “Catch me if you can.”   He had nine children, with five mothers and another on the way.

Judge Mathis told the man that people like him are the number one problem in the black community, and that there is no excuse for a man to not be able to provide for his children.   Mathis also mentioned the long-term repercussions of a father not being there for his kids, and would barely let the man finish a sentence.  In light of the recent case of Tania R. Coleman, the mother who allegedly put her starved one-year old child in a trash can, we can certainly see Mathis’ point:  Our children certainly need to be protected by their fathers.

The man, on the other hand, didn’t seem to have a clue.  He seemed to believe that building his hip-hop label was the key to his success (imagine that…a black male who wants to be a rapper, how unique).  He said that he was in school taking 12 credit hours of classes.  He mentioned that he used the money from his last album’s sales to “break off” something for all of his children’s mothers.  He appeared to be trying in the best way he knew how, or at least trying hard enough that he was satisfied with himself.

Clearly, Mathis is correct to challenge the young man’s thinking and to criticize him the way that he did.  But the question that must be asked is whether or not Mathis’ approach was sufficiently thorough to modify the Ginger Bread Man’s behavior and the behavior of men just like him.   Personally, I also wonder if additional education on the responsibilities of fatherhood would be helpful, since it appears that the young man was never raised to  understand the expectations that come along with being a dad.  If the men in his life weren’t taking care of their kids, then it’s easy to see why the Ginger Bread Man missed the Responsible Daddy Boat.

There is also an interesting divide that is caused by God and Mother Nature. While the bond between mother and child occurs naturally at birth (due to the way Oxytocin flows through the brain during pregnancy and delivery), the bond between father and child must either occur independently after the child is born or be supported by a value system that leads the father to believe that it’s important for him to be involved in the child’s life.  So, while we can reference days when fathers always provided for their children without regard to financial circumstances, we must also remember that this was a time when marriages rarely ended in divorce, kids were almost never born out of wedlock and men were raised with fathers in their own homes.  If the relationship ends before the child is born or while the child is young, a fatherless young man without an adequately structured value system can be easily duped into thinking that it’s not his job to raise the babies.

Many of our readers also stated that the mothers of these children should be confronted as well.  Some might wonder why a woman would choose to share her body with a man who has not proven that he is responsible enough to provide for children.  If he’s not taking care of his own kids, he’s probably not going to take care of yours either.  Also, getting to know someone before sleeping with them might be a good idea, since people seem to forget that hot sex after a night at the club or the random booty call can lead to dealing with a loser for the next 18 years of your life.  But then again, almost nothing about love is rational, so Cupid’s arrow is hard to avoid.

The conversation I have with Towanna Freeman is below.  We talk about some of these issues, and share what I call a “Manhood Mandate,” which reminds all of us to challenge men to step up to the plate on fatherhood without making excuses.  If you have a brother, boyfriend, best friend or child who isn’t doing their job as a father, you should feel compelled to challenge and even ostracize this man for what he’s doing to his children.  Additionally, we must all challenge ourselves to confront systemic structures which keep black men at the bottom of the pile when it comes to employment opportunities, educational access and mass incarceration.  If we don’t approach the issue from a well-rounded perspective, we are always going to be frustrated.

The conversation with Dr. Freeman is below:

 

 

 

 

Dr. Boyce Watkins is a Professor at Syracuse University and founder of the Your Black World Coalition.  To have Dr. Boyce commentary delivered to your email, please click here.

 

 

 

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  • Beverly

    No, I do not feel Judge Mathis was to hard on this Dead Beat Dad, mainly because I am sure it made the Judge angry to see a man going around using different women. With no indication of taking care of his children, we must realize these unaware women should bare some of the blame. If these women had anything going on in life this would had never happen, it obvious to me these women have not sat any goals, the bottom line they thought they had found a gold mine but what was really found was a man that had little or no RESPECT for them or himself. And to say the least this is pure NASTY.

  • Aaron

    The woman bears just as much responsibilty, aware of his nine ( 9 ) children and allowing herself to become pregnant and exposure to STD’s is plain stupid and insane!!

  • http://ladyngo.blogspot.com Lady Ngo

    I don’t think Judge Mathis was too hard on the man but i do think that (as was mentioned in the commentary) he should’ve also provided the man with some assistance or something to help him actually turn his life around. Its all well and good to sit on your pedestal and berate others (even when they are in obvious need of it) but thats not gonna make the average man turn his life around. If anything he might decide well nobody is appreciating what im doing so why bothering doing anything at all. And thus starts another cycle of babies raising babies, deadbeat dads, and people who lack even an iota of self responsibility. 

  • HERBCAROLL

    Mothers….Please STOP teaching your daughters that their ultimate goal in life should be snapping up a hansome, well living youngman by any means possible. I am the parent of a hansome, intelligent  and charismatic young man. I have invested as much time and energy in him as you in your daughter. I did not send him off to college to become your daughters benefactor, rather to continue to grow into a well rounded productive individual who may one day meet your daughter, date her, get to know her and maybe choose her as a lifemate. This to me is the natural order of things. I would like for my son to have a choice in the matter of having a family. He will not rape your daughter, I raised him and taught him better so that she will have a choice not to bed him down at first sight.

    • Patricia

      I agree with that I told my Daughter about the facts of life as well, praised God she  understood she went on to college and will walk with her masters next saturday. We need to teach our children to love themselves first and respect your self also,.They must understand to think of their future first before getting involved in these relationships.Thank you for being a man to teach your son values may God continue blessing you.

    • Anonymous

      I hope you also taught your son to ‘put a cover on it’ because it is also his responsibility to NOT procreate prior to marriage.   And just because the girl is willing to lay down with him doesn’t mean that he should do it.   I have a son also, and I have taught him to respect women and not to sleep with every woman that has her legs open.   I taught him that, even if not in love,  he should at least care deeply for each woman he beds.   AND that he should be careful not to bring a life into this world with a woman he doesn’t want in his life FOREVER.   He knows that he is equally responsible for birth control and that there is no such thing as ‘casual’ sex.  My son is 27 years old and although I am dying to be a Grandmother, I can wait until that happens in a responsible way so that my grandchild will grow up surrounded by a mother and father (and grandmother) who loves him/her and are there because they want to be.

  • Janices07083

    He was not to hard on him, I enjoyed that.  The mothers also need to be dealt with.  People like them allow a big blemish to remain over our{African Americans) heads.  I work as a substitute teacher in an urban school district and the condition these children are in is deplorable, and it stems from their households.  We have severely dropped the ball, adults need to grow up, stop living in a fantasy land and realize the reality of being responsible adults and make better decisions for themselves.  What possessed that woman to sleep with him, they indicated briefly that she had a drug problem, so we are looking at two misguided, for lack of a better term no-account people who should not be parents.  Unfortunately, It seems people like that are the ones running around having all the children.  I fear for the future of these children.  As usual Dr. Watkins nailed it with his assessment.

  • Leta

    Judge Mathis was not too harsh. My mother raised 7 kids, five boys and two girls after my parents divorced.  Because my father left us hanging my brothers made it a point to be there for their children at all cost.  The female that caught up with this brother should be addressed and if  she knew he had 9 kids, she is just as pitiful.  We as black women must continue to affirm our black brothers at all cost even if they have fallen.  I make it a point to ask brothers if they have children and if so, are they there for them emotionally and financially?  My daughters recieved child support until they were adults.  The child support they recieved did not and could not compare to the pain they suffered through by their father being absent emotionally, and followed them into their adulthood.    It is so important for us to affirm and celebrate our brothers.  At the same time our brothers must take responsibility for their actions also.  Yes the justice system is messed up and we have to struggle harder as a black man but your choices put you in the penal system.  If you know what time it is why keep breaking the law and adding a penal crown to your bag?  yes address the injustices but stop making excuses for our choices and do the right thing.

  • Erik

    Expose that fact that if these simple thug loving women stop dropping their drawers for these thugs America would not be having these problems. I wish some loser would come to my house to date my daughter with sagging jeans on and a hat to the back. We would have many problems. Tell black American women to stop loving thugs and losers and wannabe rappers. Tell them to love black men with a job, a degree, a business. Something going on for him.

    • Dear Dj

      I am with Erik.  Judge Mathis should have given it to the young lady standing before him, with the dead-beat dad.  The dead-beat dad claimed to have been bringing care packages for her child, who was not even his.  She knew, or should have waited and taken the time to learn how many kids he had before she even laid with him; let alone having gotten pregnant for him. She should also be the one ashamed of herself.  I’m tired of these women; and, I am a woman, getting with men; but, don’t have a purpose to speak concerning their own lives. All people-male and female; black, white, asian, hispanic, etc need to become more responsible and self-sufficient; and, stop relying on others to foot their bills. And, everybody need to take cold showers; and, stop thinking that laying down with dogs will not give them fleas. To contribute to giving him a 10th child, without even stopping long enough to wonder: “where are the 9 children he has fathered; and, who are the five baby momma’s roaming around. Whether she was a druggy/crackhead, herself or not is no excuse for her to stand there, in the courtroom, like she is the poor victim. She victimized herself when she opened her life to him; and, when she opened her doors to him. Furthermore, she is aiding in the baby-momma drama.

    • iggy

      AMEN, brother!!!

  • Anonymous

    Thank you Judge Mathis you are right on time,  if it walks like a duck and quack like a duck it is a dead beat dad African American Man dragging down their communities and the lives of their innocent children. 

  • Icecream459

    Kudos to Judge Mathis….BUT it takes two to tangle.  Those five women should not have allowed him to have unprotected sex…now this woman is having her 2nd child by the Gingerbread man!  Is she stupid?  She knows he’s not taking care of her first child…did she think he would take care of the 2nd?  Come on now, be a big girl and take responsibility for your body and your life.

  • Nyrik Ali

    He didn’t get them pregnant thru osmosis..He’s probably a popular hood rapper who women think has money…I’m sure they know about his other kids and proceeded to have unprotected sex with this fool…He’s just as bad as the women who sleep with him..He should have went in on him for that zoot suit he;s wearing..

    • Leta

      I agree! I just feel for the 9 kids and counting that will most likely have limited time with their father if any at all unless there is male involvement from the maternal side.  They really need to start a Americas Most Wanted for absent fathers and mothers that keep having children just for them to be neglected and forgotten about.  The pain that is caused to the children goes very deep and they did not ask to come here.

  • Sistahp

    Just to be clear, oxytocin is a “hormone that helps mammals bond…. In humans, oxytocin levels rise during childbirth, breast feeding and sex.” there is actually little scientific evidence to prove that women bond more naturally with their children than do men. There is however much evidence to suggest that because gender nuanced socialization begins practically from the day we are born, that women are socialized to be nurturers and men are socialized to be protectors, etc. (at least in heteronormative terms). Also, it might be important to note that there were sufficient enough single-parent (mother led), economically disenfranchised Black men and women, who may or may not have been legally married during the Boomer Era to suggest that the issues of poverty, fractures or dysfunctions related to race-based systematic structures the undermined Black family structures and communities. All of us over 50 did not fall into the Brady Bunch/Good Times family, all of us did not have a father (or sometimes even a mother) in the home. What we did have was a kind of “home training”–an intra-community system of checks and balances–that was passed down generation after generation “within” the Black community. This system–driven and monitored by Black communities, for Black people’s survival, demanded attention to our humanity. Whoever had a job (male or female, adult or child) helped out–we managed somehow to inculcate values into our communities and our lives, that worked for us–rather than relying upon or allowing outside values to name and dictate appropriate actions. Clearly, it is as important to give parenting lessons–and I would add by extension humanity lessons–to men as it is to women. Both men and women, in general, regardless of race, need to be more responsible–at work, at play, and in our day to day lives with one another. We must begin talking with, and really listening to each other, if we Black people have any hope of a better future.  Clearly, the Boomers wanted a better world for their children and grand children. Clearly, the Boomers wanted to leave a legacy of wealth, independence, and freedom of expression, and freedom from the oppression of narrow views of what Black people could or could not do. The Boomers passed down some very important values of uplift and self-sufficiency, and perhaps some might argue, a measure of financial success and achievement, not known to other generations of Blacks in the U.S.  (Oprah, Obama, Michael, and so many others from B-ball to Boardroom to Pulpit).  However, what Boomers failed to pass on to the generations of “entitled” Black people (of every gender and class) was human values (this is far deeper and richer than “family” values). We remember Vietnam and the aftermath of unemployment, drugs, psychological, economic, and social issues that ravaged the Black community–black men in particular. We remember the series of studies (Cress theory of color Confrontation, the conspiracy to undermine Black Boys, and many other important research done by Black psychologists and sociologist)  designed to help us understand how to dig ourselves out of the mud, while simultaneously holding oppressive racists systems accountable to make changes in their practices as it relates to Black people and fix their broken systems–so the pendulum would swing far enough up to balance out what had been deliberated calculated to undermine our live, liberty, etc.–our civil and civic rights.  We also remember the work done to self-correct from within–sometimes too gender biased (pitting Black men and women against each other), class biased (blaming the economically disenfranchised for conditions beyond their control, while constructed negative stereotypes about the economically poor as somehow socially deviant and requiring policing from upper and middle-class Blacks), and ultimately too focused on success as measured with the tape of those outside the Black communities. (The mid-1970s, the 1980s and the 1990s have taught us much, for better or worse).  So, fast forward forward into the twenty-first century. We, Black people, have a chance to get it right. We, Black people, have a chance to learn from the mistakes of earlier generations. We must take back our humanity. We must start relating to one another as human beings.  For a people who have endured, survived, and overcome so much historical baggage, our biggest challenge will be a return to loving ourselves. It sounds so cliche and simple, and yet our dilemma–selfishness, self-interest, gender bias, class and color prejudice, are just a few of the human foibles that plague us all regardless of race or gender or class. But, for Black people, it really matters. This Boomer doesn’t have any answers, but I have been a willing worker toward a more human connection between myself and my Black people. I have felt a responsibility to give wherever needed, because somebody gave to me–even when I didn’t know I needed help. I do not believe we are a broken people needing to be fixed, but rather a broken-hearted people, desperately needing to love and be loved, helped, forgiven, and given a hand up, in need of educating and education–We are no better or worse than the rest of the Nation, but as U.S. citizens, strategically and systematically underrepresented in the “plus” column, and overrepresented in “minus” column, our progress (on our own terms) matters exponentially.  Thank you Dr. Boyce and others for your hard work toward shining a light on issues of grave concern to so many Black people. Respect and Gratitude

    • KATOG6

      good analysis. however da judge need not  be so quick to judge without a critique of the social order of the day. he is actually working in support of white male patriarchal superiority system. he’s a judge he knows all too well that the risk factors of disparities in healthcare, housing, employment, racism and education disproportionately affect black men in particular. so for him to blame the individual without  any critique of this society is asinine. whose values is advancing. the white nuclear family was how blacks modeled themselves. da judge didnt acknowledge that black are unfairly denied access to employment, and he knows this all too well as a judge. he makes the culture of poverty argument against blacks. and he just like cosby and obama see the need to down talk the black man as if he REALLY has choices in employment. the sad part about it is that blacks seem to enjoy this type of blaming the black man for his misfortune. So  FUCK JUDGE MATHIS. I DONT EVEN WATCH THAT BRAIN-ROT. EVER WONDER WHY SO MANY PEOPLE WATCH HIM? BECAUSE THEY DONT HAVE JOBS! THINKABOUT IT

      • Leta

        Wow bro I agree with you in reference to the systems being messed up.  However If mexicans  can swim across the border and risk their lives just to make 5 bucks an hour as oppossed to 50 cent an hour in the United States then we need to wake up.  I have yet to see any brothers waiting at a Quik Trip store all hours of the day to be hired to do any job.  The foreigners are coming over here taking advantage of our education and every thing we have to offer.  While many of our kids in the upcoming generation are disillusioned about what success truly is.Judge Mathis came out of the hood and had a mother that left him in jail when he was younger which was his wake up call and has successfully become a better man.  Every human being is born with greatness within them but it is a matter of allowing your greatness to be discovered and developed regardless of whether you were born black, poor, blind, crimple and crazy you are still significant most of all in Gods’ eyes! 

    • Leta

      Sista I feel ya and totally agree with your perception!  The mexicans, chinese know how to operate as one but when it comes to us we continue to make excuses and blame others for our choices.  Yes the government system, penal system, and educational system is messed up but if we could just come together and agree to disagree without tearing each other down we could accomplish much.  Most of our children are being raised in daycare and the teenagers are being raised in the streets while many parents are making a living at the cost of losing our kids.  You sacrifice now or you sacrifice later.  I chose to have a job where I can be available for my son.  His father has a child in every state and i am making it a point to encourage him to not only pray for his dad but make sure he is there for his children.  I appeal to every women that uses your children to get back at the dad that wants to be in their lives to think twice because it will back fire on you eventually.  The cycle can be broken and it starts with each of us doing our part.  Sis thanks for the wisdom

  • kdrumb

    It’s  damn staged TV show that  the participants agree to be on for a fee and it has absolutely no legal standing whatsoever.  It’s just more cheap mindless entertainment for those who sit and stare at the boob tube and use it as a substitute for life. THAT is poart of the problem within the black community.  We watch more of this junk on a precentage basis than anyone else.

    • Leta

      Thats your opinion but what was witnessed on T.V is prevalent in the black family whether it is staged or not.  I’m a living witness.  To all the single ladies and gentlemen You better know the history so you won’t make history!

  • Drlarry

    A HOME LEADS TO EMPLOYMENT WHEN THOSE BLACKS HAVE A HOME TO GO TO AT NIGHT AFTER NIGHT AT LEAST WE NO WHEN PEOPLE WANT TO BEAT THEM THEY WILL HAVE A HOME TO GO TO LOOK AT IT AS HOUSE ARREST FOR BLACKS COLORED AND NONCLORED CL