Should Pastors Also Run Businesses on the Side?

With the success of TD Jakes’ recent film, “Jumping the Broom,” there were industry observers who wondered whether or not Jakes should be involved in making films.  I spoke on this issue on the air with Rev. Al Sharpton, who is also a pastor that steps outside the church to engage in both politics and activism.  The African American community is one where pastors have an impressive amount of social, political and economic power, and in our community pastors are far more than just spiritual leaders.

My take on the situation, as a Financial Scholar myself, is that it can be a very good thing for pastors to find ways to make money outside the church.  The requirement is that their methods of making money should be within the boundaries of the ethics that they claim to profess.  While I wasn’t comfortable with Bishop Jakes partnering in his film with Bob Johnson from BET, I was impressed with the manner by which Bishop Jakes leveraged his social power to help tell productive African American stories in Hollywood.

In this conversation, I speak with Pastor Stephen McCrary, who is also a successful entrepreneur in his own right.  Pastor McCrary provides insights into how a preacher can separate his spiritual work from his corporate endeavors in ways that are both ethical and fruitful.  The interview is below.

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  • Grannyrose20

    Pastors are people just like everyone else. Why should they have to put their dreams on hold. Christianity is a lifestyle, not something we do on Sundays and Fridays. Paul preached and held a job. Give the brethren a break.

    • Arneader

       Pastors are held to a HIGHER STANDARD.  God has a special place in HELL for them.

  • Joseph L. Bass, Ed.D.

    In “Should Pastors Also Run Businesses on the Side?” Dr. Watkins reports that some wondered whether TD Jakes should be involved in making films and, by implication involved in doing something other than being a church pastor. Dr. Watkins reports that he thinks “it can be a very good thing for pastors to find ways to make money outside the church.” But he provides Rev. Al Sharpton as an example of “a pastor that steps outside the church to engage in both politics and activism.”

    I’m concerned that the article’s title indicates a lack of knowledge about the reality of many churches and some notable civil rights crusaders. First, I’m not aware of Rev. Al Sharpton, or Rev. Jesse Jackson, ever being the pastor of a church. Both are clergy and important players in the civil rights movement, but, to my knowledge, neither has ever been a church pastor. As I recall Rev. Sharpton is head of a for-profit corporation, Rev. Al Communications.

    This article’s title “Should Pastors Also Run Businesses on the Side?” ignores the fact that many small churches attended by whites, blacks, Hispanics, Asians, etc. are too small to pay their pastor much of a salary. These churches are an important part of our American religious tapestry. And most of their pastors either have to run another business or must have employment outside their pastoral duties. Are some people just picking on Rev. Jakes for reasons I don’t understand? Joseph L. Bass, Ed.D.

  • Revgene10

    Eugene Williams/Partner-Pastor/Church Without Walls of Oakland:

    I have not seen the Movie but I have heard good reviews from it. In regards to the question, “Should Pastors Also Run Businesses On The Side?” I, as a Pastor say Yes and I want to address the question from two angles: One, in the movie industry it is so important to deliver positive messages about African Americans with African American Actors and Actresses. We have received so much negativity and destructive images from Hollywood over the years and we cannot have too many positve messages from Hollywood. I know our talented actors and actresses need work but I was taught that ‘all money is not good money”. So I applaud Bishop Jakes for creating movie by us for us with the potential to reach a mass audience of Americans.
    Secondly, Pastors who work outside the Church are often those working in Churches where the contibutions from the members due to the size of the membership are unable to pay for a Pastor’s lifestyle. The Pastor works as a BI-Vocational- Pastor allowing himself and the members to focus on the quality of his/her services to the congregation rather than how much we are paying them and should the members feel guilty for not being able to do more financially? A RESOUNDING NO. All the New Testament First Century Preachers/Pastors had other jobs. Jesus-a Carpenter, Peter a Fisherman with his brother Andrew and Paul a tentmaker. This takes selfish- finanacial motives out of Ministry/Pastoring. And yes, I am B-iVocational, a Pastor and a Social Worker/Mental Health-Worker with over 25 years experience in both Church and Social Services.
    Lastly, I could be wrong but I am guessing that Bishop Jakes is not making movies because he needs the money. If that is the case then I applaud him even more for wanting to have a greater goal in mind. I believe the Biblical Truth that says “To whom much is given much is required”. Bishop Jakes is accepting the responsibility to do more and there are others who could follow in his footsteps if greed and selfishness is not a motive.

    • Trudy

      My Brother I truly don’t understand where you are coming from?  And it just might be me, but I truly don’t think it is.  If this Bishop and all the other Bishops would give back monetarily to their congregations then and only then could I receive what you are saying, but because I don’t see them doing that, giving back, then it is purely greed and selfishness. And that is their motive.  Even if I had heard someone say to me or tell anyone publicly that that is what is being done, then and only then would I know it wasn’t greed and selfishness!!  So when it acts like a duck and quacks like a duck, trust me , it’s a DUCK.  

      • Revgene10

        MY Sister Trudy:

        You obviously did not read my complete response. I was very deliberate I thought with my comments. First of all anyone who makes good movies with positive messages about US/African Americans deserves our support, would you agree? Secondly, I am a Bi-Vocational Pastor/Social Worker. I love my work and my membership is too small to pay me a livable salary so I am thankful and Blessed to have another career that does that. There are many like me across this nation who serve because it is a calling to save souls and serve humanity. I don’t believe money should be any Pastor’s motive for serving the people. I believe GOD can handle that better than any of us can if we believed that. Lastly, I have been in Ministry and Social Work over 25 years and Yes, greed and selfishness exist in both. But I am not going to cast judgement on anyone when I don’t have the facts about one’s individual motives. When I do I will say this is greed and selfishness. When I don’t, I will not.

  • Arneader

    I had always heard about the fights that went on in the Black Baptist Church over money between the pastors and the deacons.  I had no idea that much money was in the church until I joined a white church and they mailed out the Church Budget Proposal.  When I saw the millions of dollars that went through the church I could not believe my eyes.  I think it is a “crying shame” how these men (and women) STEAL from the cogregation and GOD.  These pastors need to get a J.O.B. (even if it means starting a business) and stop stealing from the church.

  • Joseph L. Bass, Ed.D.

    Arneader, it’s interesting how people perceive things differently.  Your comments about pastors stealing from the church and God are interesting.  But maybe your church is different from ours.  At our United Methodist church we employ two pastors, a secretary, and a youth/community activities director.  We are about 20 miles from downtown and most of the land in between is farmed.  City government has built several recreational facilities most of which are in what were formerly segregated black communities.  But none of them are out our way in our integrated area.  After we pay our taxes, most of which money is spent downtown, we donate funds to our church.  With these funds we have built a Family Life Center that is very much like the largest recreational facility built and operated by the city with city employees. 
     
    Through our church employees and the volunteer efforts of many members our church provides several functions, including religion and community services and activities.  We do not consider our employees as stealing from us or God.  We employ them full time and try to pay them a fair wage so that at least a few of us can focus on these vital functions – religion and community services and activities.  We, of course, are a former white church but now an integrated church.
     
    All of this is what I see as a major difference between integrated communities and still-black communities.  It is amazing to me that many black Americans still cling to and look back with longing to legal segregation.  I’m old enough to remember legally-segregated black communities where the community pyramid included doctors, lawyers, pharmacists, teachers, and other professional people.  But, when segregation became illegal, nearly all the professional people and others modeling their lives after mainstream principles moved out into integrated communities like ours.  This left the black Americans living in previously legally segregated communities clinging to “being black enough.”  They eventually adopted the expectation that government will take care of them just like the slaves depended on the slave master.
     
    Black Americans who do well live mostly in integrated communities like ours and are self-reliant like the rest of us.  Through our integrated church we develop religious and communities activities on our own.  We do not see our church employees to be stealing by accepting wages to help is with this.  Joseph L. Bass, Ed.D.
     

    • Arneader

      @Joseph L. Bass, Ed.D.  I am from the South and integrated communities become segregated and the cycle continues.  Please refer to the link below about the church I previously attended.  I was so happy to have DISCERNMENT.  I knew our pastor wasn’t right and I left.  Half of the members remained and I asked them where was their discernment?  Joseph L. Bass, Ed. D. all I have to say is “your pastor had better keep his eyes on GOD, not money or women.”  Joseph L. Bass, Ed. D. all you have to do is google PASTOR STEALS and you will get a number of links.  Case closed.     http://www.mississippilink.com/news/article_dae76ebe-bc22-11df-a848-001cc4c002e0.html

      • Joseph L. Bass, Ed.D.

        Arneader, I live in the South also.  I live in Virginia.  Where I live, integrated communities are not becoming segregated.  Our pastors, other church employees, and members have their eyes on God and further development of our community to make it a better place for all of us to live.  We are not perfect; our main challenge is some black Americans cling to the segregated past and continuing to separate themselves from the mainstream community.  But those who come out and strive to be a part of our community are welcomed.  Come to our church this Sunday and there will be black people along with whites, a few Asians, etc.  Drive by our sports fields and visit our Family Life Center were we run various children and community enhancement programs including basketball, soccer, baseball, etc. and there will be black people there.  There are several houses for sale nearby; buy one and we will be glad you have joined our community and hope you will take an active part in it.  Joseph L. Bass, Ed.D.
         

  • pickles

    I think that all pastors should have jobs and not rely on the church for a salary.  Jesus passed the basket to feed the masses He didn’t pass the basket to collect money or anything else from the populace.

  • Trudy

    I don’t mind any of my Black men acquiring wealth at all.  But in saying that as far as Pastors go.  I believe that when a Pastor gets his original money, his start, his grass roots projects, his salary from those who he pastors and decides to invest it wisely as so have quite a few of the Black TeleEvangel Pastors, Bishops, and so on have done. I do strongly believe they should reach back and give to each and every individual who helped them to get their wealth, a portion of all their earnings.  Simply because they supported him when he was starting and had nothing to start with, period. As I heard Bishop T. D. Jakes say once “that one begger should reach back and tell the other begger where  he got his bread from.”  But the Bishop and all the rest of the beggers FORGOT TO REACH BACK.  Which I think is totally unacceptable for a supposedly “Man of God!”  I sent all of the Tele-evangelists a way of having all of their congregations to have money and to never ever be broke another day in their lives, only one answered me and that was Ron Parsley and he sent me a letter asking me for a donation and totally ignored my solution to help his members!  So that is the way they all seem to think.  They don’t mind asking you for your money, but the moment you make any kinds of suggestions to them about helping the people financially they tell you to “HAVE FAITH!! ”  AND IT’S LIKE A PIMP PUTTING HIS PROSTITUTES OUT IN THE STREETS AND TELLING THEM TO GET MONEY ANY WAY YOU CAN AS LONG AS YOU BRING ME MY SHARE PERIOD!  Which is so so sad for the churches being that way.  I truly do hope and pray that God comes soon and judges the deeds of men.  That’s my prayer.  For the Widows, Oprhans, and Prisoners have truly been forgotten a long time ago.  What a pity and a shame.